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Is there a same philosophy in English? #2 1)君子之交淡若水 君子之交淡若水，小人之交甘若醴。君子淡以亲，小人甘以绝”（《庄子•山木》），君子的交情虽淡，但长久亲切；小人的交情虽如酒甜美，但很容易断绝。可见，在古人看来，君子之交是不带有任何功利色彩的，就像水一样清澈透明。因而, 君子同道, 小人同利. 即孔子所说, 君子喻于义, 小人喻于利. 君子之交淡如水：冥冥之中一份惊喜，人性且厚道。君子之交是心与心的交流，是一种与天地共存的默契，如丝缕般交织在一起。注重的是真正意义上的交情。君子之交，亦可解作“知己之交”，而非与猪朋狗友之间的酒肉之情。。 2) 交小人不交君子 我的理解是, 假君子比小人更可怕. 所以宁愿交小人也不交假君子; 假君子对朋友的危害更大, 因为你没有防范. 因而才有此反语, 痛心矣! Some search plus my own understanding and here comes the further explanation of these two ancient Chinese quote raised by HeartDesire. 1) The friendship between gentlemen is as plain as water. (my preferred version of translation) Actually, the quote comes in a four-line: "The friendship between gentlemen is as plain as water; the friendship with villains is as sweet as wine. Plain as it is, the friendship btw gentlemen lasts long and true; sweet as it is, friendship w/ villains is easy to break and cease." Because there is no utilitarianism and interest(benefit) concerns existing in gentlemen’s friendship which is as plain and transparent as the water. Gentlemen are in the same course of tao, while villains are after interest(benefit). Therefore, the water-plain friendship is a surprised bliss. It is humane and righteous. It’s friendship btw heart and heart. It’s a tacit understanding. It is friends indeed. Now, can you help to find an English equivalent or one in your language? 2)Better be friended with villains than with (fake) gentlemen (my version of translation) From my own understanding, fake gentlemen are much more fearsome than villains. A gentleman may not be a true gentleman; and a villain may not always a villain. Wounds and harms done by fake gentlemen in gentlemen’s cover is much more grave than by villains, because you don’t have any guard. That’s why comes this irony. Sad! Remarks: in Confucian and Taoism, 君子does not mean gentleman, 小人does not man villain. It takes time to get a right sentence to explain. So, let’s bear them. |
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HD According to davinci's theory, if you are my true friend, you should not compliment me. Give me hard words instead. Pls dont be modest at voicing your own understanding. I am not sure mine is a Okey one. Pere Thank you for yr contribution of these two phrases. I like "Honor amongst thieves". And "there is no honor amongst theives" is not correct. More true that "there is no nonor amongst some "gentle(wo)men"
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DVC You are grown-up and I am baby girl. Thank you your compliments. But you dont have humor understanding to my joke w/ HD aha, you get caught.
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