swallowtsui 51F
1120 posts
3/16/2007 8:36 pm

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3/25/2007 8:41 pm

Good man let you fall or offer you a hand ?

This question has been on my mind.

Good man

let you fall or

offer you a hand to prevent you from falling?


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1)Is the let-you-fall type a bad man?

What's more, he will shout at you while your legs are trembling on the steep untrodden slope,

"What you fear of? you fall or at worst you die, we all will die one day!

....."

And he showed you how to keep balance, how to firm a stand, how to hike strategically. But you need to accomplish the mountain independently, all by your own.

Despaired and fearful, you want to shrink and stretch your hand in the air, but he never gives his hand. You are pissed off, "Blooded guy!"

You imagine you'd fall but you never, and you finally do it under his provocation and harsh encouragement.

2) Is the offer-you-a-hand type a good man?

He's always walking by your side. Observing, he's all the time willing to take your hand when you shrink on the obstacles and terrains.

His hand's warm and helpful, you feel being loved. He warns you of every step, cuts the blocking branches, pushes you up the rock.

"Be careful...come this way...my hand here..."

Reliable and trustful.
Yet once you lose his sight,and stay trembling on the midway of the mountain. Maybe you'll fall but you havent any clue how to react without his hand
.


Ladies, you want a bad man or good man? which one gives us more benefit and strength? Men, you are type 1 or type 2? Why?

pic. Swallow Climbing Sky Ladder


E_Moldavite
(E Moldavite)
53F

3/17/2007 2:12 am

Last man I was with was a 2 to me at first, now a 1.

I wanted a 1 in the beginning (felt stifled), then a 2 (abandoned).

Differences in timing.

We called it a day.


oasispdc
(oasispdc )
46M

3/17/2007 2:19 am

I encourage people to walk, when they fall, I encourage them to stand up by themselves. If they really cannot, I will offer a hand. Then what type am I?

Please don't disturb a chicken before he hatches.


AmericanGeishaPy 61F

3/17/2007 3:06 am

A Good Man in your number 2 sounds cool. Every woman should go out with him.


E_Moldavite
(E Moldavite)
53F

3/18/2007 1:45 am

Do we really need to push a button for help?

SanFranciscoBoy, overt instances like the one about OAPs can be spotted.

In more subtle cases that would be difficult, when we're not talking about needing physical help. To communicate (because one doesn't want to be seen as needy or whingey) as well as to read from the other side.

My former lover thinks I'm "too strong", "too assertive" when I actually needed him far more than I would admit to him. Or myself.

When you get something you had to ask for directly, you don't want it any more.

He "helped" me when it suited him, at his own convenience. But it wasn't in the areas I truly needed.


E_Moldavite
(E Moldavite)
53F

3/18/2007 4:38 am

bmyx,

There are few things a capable woman cannot accomplish alone like any capable man.

A task doesn't take as long if it is shared. I would be put out if I'm toiling away with any man of mine sitting there doing nothing because he deemed I was capable enough. That is not the point.


swallowtsui 51F
1431 posts
3/21/2007 2:33 am

It is you who needs help. Why do you look to a man to save you and judge him as good or bad if he does not?

BMY,

Thanks for your challenge. Lacking context for Chinese slang culture, understandable that you came to this point.

Definition for 'Good man' or 'bad man' is no longer moral consideration nowadays. Take it as a small joke.

Women want a man has both good and bad quality, which, sometimes, the two qualities can be mingled and transferable.

My post is to explore the interaction btw woman/man's getting along. Help, or how to treat the other one, is one part of this.

As mold noted, women sometimes want help from men when they cant accomplish it due to their limited capacity compared to men; but we dont want to be spoiled and should learn how to help ourselves.

So, help yourself to whatever you like.

Nam, great saying!

AGP,
Nr. 2 would put you into danger while you are not aware. Watch out!

SFB,

I'd say tpe 1.0 is my teacher, 1.5 is my ideal, 2.0 is my lovely granny.