1ClassyLady 68F
3121 posts
12/16/2012 4:17 pm
Assault Weapons Ban Bill


How many innocent people have to die before our government ban the assault weapons? It is heart-wrenching to hear those massacre from news again and again. Do we need semi-automatic guns to hunt deers? Enough already, please make legislation to ban sell, purchase, transfer, possess, ..... of any assault weapons.

Can we have peace on earth?



Honesty is the best policy.


1ClassyLady 68F
3289 posts
12/24/2012 7:18 pm

To woaini1947:

There is a "Gun buy back program" now in Southern California. You can anonymously return your gun(s) and get $200 back. Please Google "Gun buy back program" for locations and time. Thank you.

I don't have gun and didn't pay attention but I just heard from TV about this news.


Honesty is the best policy.


beyondfantasy3 113M
4740 posts
12/22/2012 11:05 am

The US nor any other nation can afford to put the 'volume" of armed guards at the schools of which it would require.
Not all schools are built as a single enclosure, some have various 'wings', with open space in-between.
If we seek to arm our grade schools, then we will have to increase the same at our Universities, and that is not possible, because some are built like small cities.

but we also have people who go and shoot up people at their jobs, and recently at shopping malls.
We'd need 'to become a caged society to protect against the fools who have assault weapons and the motivation to use them against the public population.

There are many many things to look at. Since America became the nation that GLORIFIES single parenthood - much of the solidity of its social foundation has cracked and is now crumbling into a million vile splinters.

But this simplicity is ignored, because we have a society that loves to glorify any stand which helps promote single parenthood. people are keen to claim single parent hood is a problem in the black ghetto or any ghetto for that matter. But no one wants to recognize that single parenthood is a problem in the broader spectrum of American community.

TV dramatize the ignorance, when it shows women at the door with a frown and contempt on her face when the man comes to visit his children, it shows people pushing for divorce when they have a house full of kids when one or the other don't get their vain way.

People have lost the sense of responsibility which comes to any couple when they have a child.. it is no longer just about them as an individual, but most refuse to see the expanse of their unified responsibility, they are concerned with their individual vain and egotistical aims.

What results is we are grooming a nation of psychological damaged people, who have no idea what the unity balance is of male and female as parental guardians and care takers.

The problem is always where mankind does not want to look.. and that is within the structure of what makes community, what supports civility within and of community.

The grab for power is at the core - the lack of will to share the power of raising children is within the factors, and the egotism of self glory searches of claiming one can do it alone, or one does not need the other gender to raise a child.
It's the madness of people. It is not getting any better, it is simply being glorified by the entertainment community figures and even in the common community. it is now promoted like its a badge of honor to be a single parent. People are not willing to give up that glory for the sake of a balanced home and a male and female role figure within the home.

People can and will find reason to dismiss any potential suitor when they weight out that they may have to share the responsibility as well as the power over the children's discipline and guidance.

No one will discuss this, because so many will do all they can to deny these are factors which are truthful factors, because few if any are willing to admit to their vain and ego satisfaction they get behind this self glory pursuit.

In the big picture, the selfish glory pursuit has demonstrated itself into being a disjointed society which a mass of insecurity and egomania filling every void. This in some cases become to find violence as the ultimate aim of egotistical glory seeking.

The truths no one wants to talk about-- do not vanish because of silence, they only manifest themselves through silence to be other outgrowth of disharmony. then we try and medicate it away will pills, and claim that the need of life time medication is the viable choice.

Today, the thirst for ignorance wrapped within vanity is the bulwark people build against relationship and family stability.

The result is we have a society that is motivated by drama, which includes the pursuits of death and destruction of others for self vain acclaim or anguish because they have not become the master of their universe. Vengeance becomes embedded in the motivations and contempt rages like a mad plague.
As a result we make available 'Weapons of Assault Design" for people to utilize to engage this vile evil against and upon others.


1ClassyLady 68F
3289 posts
12/21/2012 8:51 pm

National Rifle Association on Friday called for "armed security" at every school in the nation.

Do you think NRA call for "armed security" at every school will work? I don't think so. How about the massacre on the street where Gabby Gifford had been shot and 6 others died, the shooting in a movie theater, at a shopping mall, at a technology college, .....? The carnage can happen at anywhere, anytime, .... when the guns are available to a psycho "snapped". Can you image 6 years old kids go to school and see the "armed security" at the gate every day? I will be very terrified to go to school by then. I don't think kids or even adults can see "armed security" at street, at mall, at theater, ... either. This is ridiculous. What kind of country we are living in?

Honesty is the best policy.


1ClassyLady 68F
3289 posts
12/17/2012 9:53 pm

I strongly believe in [U]"Pervasiveness of guns in this country contributes violence", therefore, our government should ban the assault weapons, rifles, guns, bullets, ......

If there are no gun obtainable, there will no killing spree, or revenges, when a psycho "snapped". I think banning the weapons is mandatory.

Peace on earth !!

Honesty is the best policy.


beyondfantasy3 113M
4740 posts
12/17/2012 5:56 pm

There is no such things as a 'Safe Place', only some places have a higher or lower probability of something happening. But that does not stop people from shooting up public places.
There are nutty people in every place on this earth.

As to Military designed Weapons, they have no place in the communities, but that does not prohibit hand guns, shot guns, rifles. What matters most is that people don't resort to grabbing a gun unless it is for self defense in a situation of imminent danger to self or family.
Home protection and protection when in a vehicle to me is reasonable. I think people should be required to have a permit to own a weapon. I have a permit for a concealed weapon.

I have no interest to shoot anyone, nor to fight anyone, I don't even care to argue with people.. I am not going to get into an argument with someone just because we have different view points of opinion about something, I am not go to try to get anything from anyone that does not belong to me.

Hot head argumentative people and arrogant people who are perpetually aggressive toward others, should not have guns, nor should people who like to get drunk or high.

There also should be a psychological profile taken to measure the temperament of people.

Although, "None of these things" will foretell of people who have the proclivity to go off in a fit of madness, but it can at least limit and exclude those who have a high propensity to go off the deep end.

As to kids, people had better open their eyes to the reality of their offspring, if your kid is a bad seed, don't try to blind yourself from it. There are people who know their kids are gang members, some know their kids are racist bigots and some know their kids are bully's and some know their kids are overly aggressive and some know their kids are pure unruly. and some know their kids are thieves and robbers.
The same is true for people who make relationships with people they know are aggressive and dominating, or brutishly or conniving-ly malicious. yet, people make excuses for them, and some even accept the abuse and remain silent.

There is a limitless array of criminal minds in the make up of the human race. We see people brainwash people to strap on bombs and blow up themselves and others, there are people who plot to kill their mate, or their family. Every day, there is someone even in general social circles plotting some malicious act of some sort, even if it's simply to be obstinate enough to not warn another of danger, or someone will watch another screw up at work, when they could have easily offered their assistance to avoid the incident.

There are people who get on the highway, with no regard for others, and use their car as a weapon and result to kill other people.. Especially those who drink and drive and have no thought about the others they may harm.

I don't know what the solution is, because no matter how many ways we'd like to think that people have the means and ability to respect humanity... there is always someone who simply does not give a darn.. about others.

In America, education is FREE, and people refuse to get it, In America, there are many programs that offer to help people, and people avoid it and choose to stay in a downtrend and, some even choose to stay in a backward cycle of self defeat.

One day society will eventually come up with some means to track everyone, and it will find a way to isolate people who refuse to progressively engage the social process and respect self and others. I guess we are moving closer and closer to the 'mark of the beast' ( human implant type tracking devices)

In America, there are so many churches in any city, one probably would be hard pressed to try and count them. yet, there are people who live directly across some churches, and the people live in squalor, but they won't walk across the street and try and learn how to change.

But it does not matter about the income level, nor in some cases the education level... when people have lost a moral compass to respect others.

The shooter in Colorado was educated, the Professor who shot the people in Atlanta was a tenured professor and there are countless educated people who swindle companies, crash industries, kill their mates for money, and some just go off on a killing spree of madness, abducting women and children, and some of those have the wild inhumane nature to hack and butcher people. Then we hear the stories in Mexico where they cut peoples heads off and every kind of mass killing, all about power and drugs.

The want of power, makes people go mad, and many who gain or get power become drunk by the power and mayhem and madness, murder, torture, and any kind of inhumae thing is apt to follow some of these people. there are rich people who still pay money to 'do those snuff films' where they torture and kill someone in a sexual madness.

And then there are those various para-military groups that plan and plot and train for mass killing, but they try to hide it behind the claim of being survivalist. They had some young racist kids who used their truck to run over a man just because he was black and then they backed up and ran over him again, dragging him down the street. there a young males killing each other just because one did not like how another look at him. It's pure madness !!!

People can be very malicious.. We have no idea how many Asian girls are locked in opium dens and tortured or how many girl babies are still being killed on a daily basis.

It's just pure craziness when people have these motivations to kill other people. .. It would be nice to have a place that was 'violence free", but I don't think one exist on earth.
It's certainly going to be very hard to remove 200+ years of mass weapon production from the hands of countless millions upon 10's of millions of people. Then there are people who have machine shops who can make weapons from scrap metal. And who knows how many guns these manufactures sell out the back door and under the table... then there is such a thing as cross the border smuggling..

How people became so crazy... has to have something to do with the media.

You can't say that porn makes people do stuff, and then deny that video games does not.. or that movies don't influence people and these 24/7 crime shows don't have an effect on people. No matter what time of day or night there is a crime show on with someone doing unthinkable crimes, but they make it seem common place by the cycle of these shows.


beyondfantasy3 113M
4740 posts
12/17/2012 5:44 pm

    Quoting 1ClassyLady:
    To woain1947:

    I don't own a gun and NOT plan to buy one either. I hope you turn in that Chinese SKD rifle. What kind of girlfriend you have to give you a gun? Guns and rifles are intended to kill (animal or people). You should turn in those weapons you have. If you feel you are NOT safe where you live, please move and rent an apartment where is "SAFE". I don't like to associate with anyone who owns a weapon that intimidate and threat me.

    Are we violent people? We don't have an oppressive government to fear about. Those perpetrators (lunatics) shoot innocent, unarmed people from Tucson, Arizona (6 died, Gabby Giffords injured), Oregon State movie theater, a shooting in a shopping mall to Sandy Hook Elementary school in Connecticut. How many deaths we can bear? How many parents and relatives have to suffer from abusive use of assault weapons? We don't even need semi-automatic weapon to shoot deers for sports. Why do we need those assault weapons for? It is time to make legislation to ban sell, purchase, transfer, possess, ... of any assault weapons. "Gun Control" is a must for all pistol including background check, .... However, let's ban that assault weapons that is NOT necessary for defend ourselves from government but against innocent people.
Your compassionate regard is admirable... Unfortunately, they have these people who have been on the media with an argument against every effort to try and get these assault weapons banned. I don't agree with their logic, because there in my view is no need for a military assault weapon in the civilian population.


1ClassyLady 68F
3289 posts
12/17/2012 10:57 am

To woain1947:

I don't own a gun and NOT plan to buy one either. I hope you turn in that Chinese SKD rifle. What kind of girlfriend you have to give you a gun? Guns and rifles are intended to kill (animal or people). You should turn in those weapons you have. If you feel you are NOT safe where you live, please move and rent an apartment where is "SAFE". I don't like to associate with anyone who owns a weapon that intimidate and threat me.


Are we violent people? We don't have an oppressive government to fear about. Those perpetrators (lunatics) shoot innocent, unarmed people from Tucson, Arizona (6 died, Gabby Giffords injured), Oregon State movie theater, a shooting in a shopping mall to Sandy Hook Elementary school in Connecticut. How many deaths we can bear? How many parents and relatives have to suffer from abusive use of assault weapons? We don't even need semi-automatic weapon to shoot deers for sports. Why do we need those assault weapons for? It is time to make legislation to ban sell, purchase, transfer, possess, ... of any assault weapons. "Gun Control" is a must for all pistol including background check, .... However, let's ban that assault weapons that is NOT necessary for defend ourselves from government but against innocent people.

Honesty is the best policy.