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To tiara26: I am glad that you responded my blog. You have the courage to come out from other side of world to speak for us. I am curious to know the Arab world where I have NEVER been. I have sympathy for all the women in Middle East (especially Afghanistan), but I don't know how to help them. Yes, the education is a good tool to get knowledge and change from the root of problem. I have so many questions about you. How old were you when you came to USA? Do you like to live in USA? I think you came here when you were very young, so you can communicate in English. What is your nationality before you came to USA? I heard that Muslim have to pray 5 times a day, is that true? Thank you. I wish you well and happy in this great country that allow all the nationalities in the world come (immigrant). Honesty is the best policy.
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Some of the women, especially the wealthy ones, put on their designer stuff under the Burka.
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To 55Mark55: You said "the problem in Syria have nothing to do with religion". Please refer to Dr. Arieh Eldad's email. This is only one example of the war between Jews and Muslims in the Land of Israel. It is not a territorial conflict. Tell me, Jews and Muslims are NOT religions???? BTW, your link did NOT come through as it has been blocked by AFF. To goannaoil: Thanks God, there are some lucky women can fly out of Afghanistan with burka and changed dresses to jeans and Western gear. I am glad to hear that. They are improving and want to be treated as civilized people. How did they get those jeans or clothes? Can we use the power of internet to civilize those barbarous regions? They should have computers, right??? Honesty is the best policy.
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Remember the madness that came to exist when the Soviet Union was broken up... It is not unthinkable that this same level of madness which showed up in Iraq, can also show up in other countries that are under authoritarian regimes can come to exist... and it can do so in countries that don't claim any particular religion. but if a nations can use a religion as their aim and basis for conflict because of the masses that aspire to the religion, then it can be wrongly influenced by the religious institutions. We saw that in America during Slavery and Segregation, the churches not only supported but many promoted the continuance of slavery and segregation and kept a blind eye and some even had active covert participation in the brutalities during slavery and segregation.. It did not get the label thrust on the religion, because the Government was conveniently in support of the promotion of slavery and segregation.. thus the separation of Church and State kept it from being labeled under a religious premise. Sadly in many of the Islamic nations, there is no separation between Church and State... because the Religion and Government work as one in the same.
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The first part I'd certainly agree to the divisions created, but the part about Islam I'd not agree, because the radicals and extremist use Islam as a fulcrum to promote the violence. It's been a long time since the British and French left, if they want to have round table talks among each other and devote themselves to finding a working solution they would.. But they are individually, "power hungry"... Sadly, I don't discount external influences have a great part to do with things, As I said, we don't know who all the players are. nor do we know what influence the players exert in the promotion of this madness. what we do know, is that powerful nations do play "policy shift games" where this year they support one side and next year they support another side. If there was no oil in the region, a great deal of the madness would not be at the fever pitch it is today.
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One part of me says to have nothing to do with the middle east, let them sort their own problems. But then, another part says that there are many who are victims of such a society and would willingly change it if they had the opportunity. Do we turn our backs on them? This is the dilemma, and unfortunately the extremist and radicals take advantage of this ambiguity to further promote and plot to attack innocent people, simply because they won't submit to the madness of these extremist and radical mad men. In this sense... eventually, nations will have no choice left but to ban immigration of people from these regions into their countries. At some point these extremist and radicals Muslims will blow up something that cause the whole world to take notice and take a stand, and at that time, they will either wipe out the region or treat it like it has a fence around it.
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I really feel conflicted having this attitude about people. Because among these people there are good people who want change and try and get away from this brand of madness, Unfortunately many of them don't have the resources to get away... they result to become victims of this mad making religion's fanatical elements., It's quite sad, because as a black person, I know what its like to be labels and discriminated as a group... But also as black people, I do respect that we came together as a group to stand against brutality, acts of random violence and killing of us, just because we were non white skinned people, it is very disenchanting to have such a negative view of a group of people. Therefore as I write, I continue to make emphasis of "radical" and "fanatical" types... to try and offer some distinction to hopefully convey that I don't think all people from these regions are killer minded. Unfortunately their brand of religion fanatics seem to do more insult and mockery of the premise of God, than they do to honor the principle and premise of God's Truths and promotions of good among mankind. . Their concept of God being used by the fanatics is killing anyone who does not submit to them and their way, and turning their own into killers and/or blowing up their own people if they don't submit to some dogma like a puppet. Nothing about this is truth of God's Basis of "Do Good Will Among Mankind". They ( the fanatics) insult the nature of woman, with their controlling ignorance and indoctrinate the women by fear, force and dogmatic rituals into the degradation of the nature and life of woman. This is not the teaching of Gods words, this is the ignorance of man, creating a fanatic supported dogma to support radical aims of dominance of woman and spreading his ignorance in aims to control the masses by deception, mis-information and contorting the worlds of lessons about building goodwill among mankind. They (unfortunately the masses) too often are relegated to live in makeshift dirt and rock covered landscapes being led by the foolish cleric's who abuse and misuse the concept of God for their evil promotions, who are funding by the wealthy and the sheik's who live in manicured oasis in the middle of the desert with every imaginable luxury, while these same wealthy ones feed them ignorance and stupidity, to keep them unaware, while the wealthy hoard everything from the natural resources to support their opulence, at the expense of maintaining the masses in a cycle of stupidity, violence and deprivation. How can you open up to be with trust, when they become 'sleepers" lying in wait to blow up something or someone. No one can name any place that is highly populated with extremist Muslims where they are not killing each other and plotting to kill others. they move this killer mentality with them when they move to places and mass together... the result is too much terrorist activity. Yes, it is not good to stereotype people, but they continue to paint the same picture and that picture becomes a danger to others. It makes no sense that the radical Muslim leaders who claim wealth in the billions, and then live with aims of capitalism and a sense of democracy among themselves as the wealthy, and then support the masses being Muslims led and or controlled along with being contained by extremist. The US spent a Trillion+ in dollars trying to help them get rid of this craziness and they sit on their ass and let the maniac's come right back into their homes and front yards and re-indoctrinate them back into the cycles of ignorance. What other place do you see daily a mass of people in a mob scene throwing rocks at people with guns. That many people seem to be unable to wake up and realize they don't have jobs, because if they did, they'd not have time to be in the streets fighting against anyone who tries to come and help them. Too many of these people know exactly who the bombers are, they know who the killers are before the killers attack others, but they don't say a thing, and then act dumbfounded with the same killers blow up some of their own family members. You can't help people who choose to remain in that cycle of silliness and continue to follow the radical and fanatical cleric based leaders.. How many nations have gone there to try and promote change, and each time, they are fought against and eventually they just give up and leave. Trying to sort those who want change from those who don't sadly has opened too many places up to allow the radicals to come in, because they are skilled at practicing deception to further their aims to gravitate to other places to ultimately plot and plan to kill innocent people, all because the people won't submit to this evilness. The ones who push and take a stand to try and promote change, the people won't support them, and ultimately the promoters of change, become overcome or killed, because the masses won't speak up and stand up for change. Unfortunately this is not the only group,, Right here in America, some of the Hindu people from India, have had their daughters killed and some of them kill their daughters themselves, just because the woman choose whom she wants to be with and tries to live her life as a independent person. Again, Look at the assholes who blew up the people at the Boston Marathon. It's guaranteed if you turn on the News TODAY, it will have a headline where some of them have blown up 20 or more people, and destroyed something. I guarantee if these Radical and Extremist Muslim killer types go to China or Russia and start blowing up people and things, the Russian and Chinese will take a totally different stand than they currently take, and they would wipe these people out and rid them from their environment. They'd probably enact a ban and block them from entering China or Russia. Even in Thailand, the Radical Muslim uprising resulted to many threats, bombing and other acts of violence against the general Thai people. The US and the British and French spend many billions of dollars every year, trying to identify and stop attacks by these Muslim Extremist who have infiltrated their lands. Yet, each of these nations continue to try and be humane and keep its border's open to all people to immigrate, but the sad part is the killer mined, mix themselves in with the non killer minded, and through that deception process, they slip into these countries. We here push to make it difficult for Mexicans to immigrate here, but Mexicans come and they will work, and we don't see Mexican people coming here to blow up things, they come and help built things. What is the answer to this madness...??? It's crazy, because as I said earlier, some of the people I knew in LA who were from these regions are good people, and they were very good friends, they simply wanted to make a better life for their family and they were workers who contributed to the community and were very gracious in their friendships. When 9/11 happened, they were outraged at the shadow that was cast upon them by these Muslim extremist. they even went into re-doubled efforts in working to try and get people to not see them as being associated with this madness. I felt so bad for them and the people whom were in our circles of work associate and friends, did all we could to let them know, we appreciated them as individuals. Someone is funding the madness in these Middle East Countries, and if they are not making 5-6 times the amount of money per barrel of oil, we can be assured they will gladly spend $5-$10 dollars or more of that profit gain to insure that the fighting and bombing continues, because it insures they can still elevate the price of Oil. There has to be a massive level of complicity in this process and we simply don't know who all the players are who promote and support this continued bombing and killings..
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You took the words out of my mouth. "The blatant ignorance and stupidity of these people infuriates me." How can a woman so stupid asking forgiveness by wearing a suicide belt and tried to blow-up the hospital where once saved her life? Ridiculous !! How can we save them, if they are so stupid NOT knowing what is right and what is wrong? They are all sick people (males & females) separate from this modern world. If there is a God exist, please use his power to correct these stupid regimes to people. If there is a God, please show me the miracle. What is God? God is supposed to do what human can't do. But where is God, when we need him? I want to help those people, but I am NOT capable to do. Al-Lah is Muslim God should talk to Christian's God. I am an Agnostic, I doubt there is a God. We are just human, doing what human do. We were born, we breath, eat, sleep, educated, married, have children, .... we die. Hope we don't have regret when we leave this world. Honesty is the best policy.
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Since Middle East regions are so incomprehensible to us. Can we use the modern social media methods, such as emails, blogs, FaceBook, Twitter, ... to educate them? We are in 2013, internet can reach to everywhere. Perhaps, we can use these peaceful methods to change them slowly and gradually. Look our U.S. society, Miley Cyrus VMA performance. OMG, send Miley Cyrus to Mid-East, especially to Afghanistan. She will be stoned. The Western cultures are so different from Mid-Eastern cultures. She meant to explode herself in the outpatient clinic of the hospital where they saved her life. It seems that her family promised her that if she did that, they would forgive her. The blatant ignorance and stupidity of these people infuriates me. they used her love and want of love to try and turn her into a killer of others. These people are sick and they should be banned from immigrating any place... to do so, screen them very heavily, and for any women who seek to escape this backward ignorance, then each human being respecting nation should open the doors and let them in. The men who create this system in these crazy nation should be lined up and executed and rid the world of this brand of stupidity. I have very little regard for these dogmatic types who become such fanatical fools led by a bunch of cleric's who should be tried for human abuse in the madness they teach. These same wealthy of these lands who fund and support this ignorance, import and even buy women on an underground market for their sexual pleasure, and then want to get up publicly and pretend they are such devout hard line Muslims who aspire to some ancient ignorance, as if they have been appointed to be the ruler of women., In too many religions, their structure is too much designed around regulating the sexual lives of women. If you note in almost every religion it has an aim to control and regulate the sexual lives of women... Respect women as people and they will manage their own sexual lives as they see want to do. Even with the situation of Miley and the antic's she did along with other female entertainers who can't keep their clothes on, are caught up in the cycle of madness of following the money making script of Hollywood usury of women's sex to promote sales... they have deluded these women to not rely on their talent, but to present themselves as sex toys and lure drivers of lusting aims, as a scheme for the pursuit of fame and money. Sadly, these women don't know any better and sell themselves into the madness for the sake of popularity and a payday. I don't see why a man would be motivated to choose any of the entertainer as a wife, because they are caught into a programming that is not conducive to developing a family that has a moral fiber about the respectful nature of sex and its function. One model or there have been a few, who opened their eyes, but they did so only after they got enough money and attached themselves to a man with even more money... then they left the modeling, because they said, they suddenly became aware of how they were used as sex lure objects .... and not really seen as a individual or respected as a person. Sadly, they chose this route because they wanted the money and the attention. But many families groom their daughter to be 'Covert prostitutes"... marketing themselves to the highest bidder... Only when some women get older do they realize they have lived as a covert form of prostitute, by then some have been through 2-3 or more marriages and countless other relations where they not only contributed to the havoc some were the catylsis of this havoc because they were not aware enough to live beyond the way they were groomed. By the time some reach their 40's and the physical lure is not working, only then do they wake up and want to be in a relationship for the 'sharing of love",... rather than as being, being in a relationship because they assumed they should be worships and bought at every turn while they play the on and off attitude games trying to extract submission of the man to fulfill her whims. I have a friend who has two daughters, she said, she keep them busy, enrolling them into character building programs, and do not buy them the sexual lure things nor does she teach them to try and use their body and face to manipulate situations, and she does not want them thinking they can use the fact of being female to expect concessions to be afforded to them... She said she is no interested in raising daugher who are on money and status search when they seek a man for a mate, she want them to seek the man as a person, without the pursuit of trying to measure his walled and what they think they can get from him. I appreciate her and respect how she thinks, when I worked with her, she was a good worker and did not mind doing her part of the job... she was then as now a very pretty woman, who could probably have used the lure of her looks and figure to try and get by, but she did not go that route. Now, years later I see that she was genuine, because she is teaching self value to her daughters and teaching them to see men as people, not a meal, trinket and rent ticket. Our system are what is screwed up... Right here in America we have too much prostitute training going on in the homes, until these women are filled with vain and selfish aims, and then throw tantrums when men don't devote his whole life to submitting to this madness. The minute the men is not kissing their butt, they then claim that the relationship is not working and they are ready to leave and try to take everything they can get. If the Muslim think they are avoiding this by their method, they are wrong, all they are doing is trying to make the women live as some puppet that he can pull the strings and make her do as he expects. Neither of these examples benefit society, it does not benefit the man, nor does it benefit the woman... beyond the ego trips these men and these women get from these two perspective they are caught within. When people learn to RESPECT what is a HELP MATE, only then when man and woman find the true nature of their roles as a mated pair. God laid it out plain and simple... with the term HELP MATES No other title is needed between a man and woman, the rest is driven by the honest nature of love and the sharing of loves interactive realism. Nothing ever said Adam and Eve was husband and wife, it said they were HELP MATES. ONLY WHEN the King and Queen delusions came into being was people set out on the madness trails and when Clergy proclaimed themselves as if to be above the basis of God, does things get into the craziness cycle. I see people now, who talk about their pastors as if they are Gods, when these are nothing but human men, who teaches and discuss the words and wisdom's of honest and honorable living as is what the Bible's aim is to outline about life and the human being in relation to God. All the other ritualistic stuff that many religions are riddled with is created by man's own vanity. .
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Since Middle East regions are so incomprehensible to us. Can we use the modern social media methods, such as emails, blogs, FaceBook, Twitter, ... to educate them? We are in 2013, internet can reach to everywhere. Perhaps, we can use these peaceful methods to change them slowly and gradually. Look our U.S. society, Miley Cyrus VMA performance. OMG, send Miley Cyrus to Mid-East, especially to Afghanistan. She will be stoned. The Western cultures are so different from Mid-Eastern cultures. Honesty is the best policy.
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I received an email from my friend on 8/28/2013 regarding Middle East culture that I would like to share with you. Subject: Ingrid's amazing win Dear friends, Ingrid, an Avaaz member, helped save a Norwegian woman from being jailed for being in Dubai -- she started a petition on Avaaz and the social media storm it created kept pressure up on governments to act. Now the woman is free! And it all started with one simple step: click below to start a campaign on an issue you care about, it's incredibly quick and easy! Start a petition Ingrid, an Avaaz member, has used our site to help save a Norwegian woman from being sent to jail for being ! Marte Dalelv was sexually assaulted while visiting Dubai, but when she reported it to the police, she was sentenced to 16 months in prison for "extra-marital sex"! When Ingrid read about Marte's case, she started a petition on Avaaz calling on the Dubai and Norwegian governments to ensure Marte's release. The petition and the Facebook page she created exploded on social media and people from all over the world signed the petition and flooded the two governments with messages at addresses that Ingrid posted on her Avaaz petition page. Within days, Marte was released, and the Foreign Minister Espen Barth Eide posted a Twitter message saying: "Marte is released! Thanks to everyone who signed up to help." Ingrid's campaign was covered by major media outlets and clearly ramped up the diplomatic pressure to free Marte and bring her home to her family. And it all started with a simple step of starting a petition on the Avaaz community website. Think of an issue you care about and click here to get started -- it's incredibly quick and easy to start a campaign: I also received an email on 8/27/2013 regarding Middle East culture. From: Dr. Arieh Eldad: Arab Mentality I was instrumental in establishing the Israeli National Skin Bank, which is the largest in the world. The National Skin Bank stores skin for every day needs as well as for war time or mass casualty situations. This skin bank is hosted at the Hadassah Ein Kerem University hospital in Jerusalem where I was the Chairman of plastic surgery. This is how I was asked to supply skin for an Arab woman from Gaza, who was hospitalized in Soroka Hospital in Beersheva, after her family burned her. Usually, such atrocities happen among Arab families when the women are suspected of having an affair. We supplied all the needed Homografts for her treatment. She was successfully treated by my friend and colleague, Prof. Lior Rosenberg and discharged to return to Gaza. She was invited for regular follow-up visits to the outpatient clinic in Beersheva. One day she was caught at a border crossing wearing a suicide belt. She meant to explode herself in the outpatient clinic of the hospital where they saved her life. It seems that her family promised her that if she did that, they would forgive her. This is only one example of the war between Jews and Muslims in the Land of Israel. It is not a territorial conflict. This is a conflict of civilizations or rather a war between civilization & barbarism. I have never written before asking to please forward onwards so that as many as possible can understand radical Islam and what awaits the world if it is not stopped. Dr Arieh Eldad These are the sad stories that happened in Mid-East regions. Honesty is the best policy.
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Thanks for all your responses. I feel very frustrated that we tried to rescue the women in Middle East regions, but we can't reach to them. We can't change them. It is sad to see those women behind the ugly burkas. What a humiliation to all mankind. How can you recognize your girlfriend in the public? Women are beautiful, why use burkas to cover them? Why stone those women when the "sex" is between male and female. I see women who come to western society and they still submit to wearing this stuff. As to the stoning people for sex, that is barbaric... I'd say like the men up for the firing squad and ten bullet to each man for every individual rock he threw. I'd also say, line up the people who run around as moral police, maybe castrate them first and then award them with a few bullets each in the head. when these types are wiped out, then maybe society will improve in these regions for these women and children alike. I still think the best method is for the women to identify these dogmatic types, and selectively 'take them out in their sleep, or inject his ass with something that insures he does not wake up, and do so in mass numbers until the rest of the men get the message that women are not going to live under this repression and abusive control mechanisms created by man. I will bet in no time short the men will change and they will do so gladly.
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Thanks for all your responses. I feel very frustrated that we tried to rescue the women in Middle East regions, but we can't reach to them. We can't change them. It is sad to see those women behind the ugly burkas. What a humiliation to all mankind. How can you recognize your girlfriend in the public? Women are beautiful, why use burkas to cover them? Why stone those women when the "sex" is between male and female. Honesty is the best policy.
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It's no quick answer to the problems there, but I do think the women in some of these regions may be the closest thing to an answer... Because if the women could get enough support to help them 'get rid of these men of madness", then the women would be the ones who first teach the next generation of kids against this kind of stuff. One thing is sure, the men are not going to kill off the women to further his ignorant self centered aims, because he is not dumb enough to think he can survive long without women. How this could be achieved is itself low in probability. But if by some means the women identified these radicals and targeted them for removal, then those nations would be able to find means to change.
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I think we should not go there.. As you said, these people have an ideology that is not going to be changed by an attack.. We see that from Iraq and Afghanistan. Everyday, they set off bombs blowing up their own people. There is not a day that has gone by in for sure the lat 10-15 years, they have no blown up a group of people or something. I have "0" interest to go there. as to their attitude toward women, I wish the women would group together by some means, and start attacking the Muslim men who promote the madness of oppression of women. I bet if a few thousand of these women, "knock these men off in their sleep", the rest of the men will get the message !! Its' like America Slavery, I know I would not have survived it, because there is no way that I'd allow someone to beat me with a whip and other such stuff. It would have been a lot less slaver owners, because I would have create my own brand of "Nat Turner's Raids". ( Nathaniel "Nat" Turner (October 2, 1800 – November 11, 1831) was an American slave who led a slave rebellion in Virginia ) I would certainly hope to have planned better, to insure that I get the one who made the laws that promoted slavery as well as those who ran the auction house to sell people as slaves. It would have been good to get the 'cook" on board, to insure that the last meal some of them ate would be unmistakable in their last minute of awareness as to why it is their last meal. The sad thing about a strike, NOTHING goes as planned to the final aimed resulted perfectly. Now even if the Leader is taken out, the factions and the wealthy will only continue to promote havoc... leave them alone and when they blow up enough of each other and destroy enough of their landscape maybe they will act like civil human beings and come to regard each other as equal people, or they will continue and wipe each other out. A great deal of the madness in these region is Religious Based Fanaticism and Pure Ignorance. Other parts have to do with a long history of occupations and regime changes during the removal of the occupiers. Killing is now ingrained in the last two to four generations, they probably would not know what to do if they abandon the aim of killing. Not only in countries that are Muslim, but any place they go, they bring terror games and try to dominate and expect others to submit to their brand of religious madness and blowing up stuff and people. Maybe the best thing any nation can do is 'Ban Muslims Immigration" and if the "Hindu" or other religious factions, do some of the same them "Ban" them to, to remain in the part of the world that supports their brand of religion. It is evident they have a difficult time living among other people and respecting other peoples rights to not follow their brand of lifestyle. The really sad part of banning them, is I've known people who follow this religion, they did not put their women in this garb, nor did they deny their children education and many of them lived the way American people live... they left all that "ritual stuff" which is common in their home country, when they came here to live... They did not spend all day trying to convert others, nor did they spent their time trying to change other people to follow the habits of the radial Muslims. As to the multiple wives, I think out side of any religion, people should have as many wives or husbands as they want. because that is agreements made between individuals. We see what happen when Saddam was removed, Yes he was brutal, but the people of that region evidentally needed the threat of brutality to keep them from killing each other. I don't support Saddam's methods, but I do know that he knew more about the people of the region than we know about the people of the region. Sadly, some people will only remain contained into some civil manner, by threat and force... this is the outcome of radicalism in religious factions and the madness of cleric's who pursue power through inciting conflict. I think President Obama, should get the consensus and support of Congress ... Period... don't allow himself to be pushed as if he has to act like some strong man, just to convince others that he is not soft of addressing wrongs. But do it with the support of congress, not as a stand alone decision outside of congressional support. As to the UN, they don't stand up to address anything, because its always players in there who don't care about the wrongs done to others, they only care about their profit model and if it will hurt their profits. Sadly, Russia and China fit that posture. China does not stand up to help fight terrorism nor anything, but they want to sell their goods to everyone and keep labor cost low to force other countries business to falter. But Eventually, China will have its own internal uprising because no nation can continue in the manner and method of China without reaping the consequences internally of its own actions and stance. Russia, does not care as long as it can sell arms and other fighting equipment to these nations. Russia still has too much passionate devotion to people containment, and seems to support any nations that equally has the aims to oppress its people. Because the hard line communist mentality has not been eradicated in the Russian Leadership ranks. Eventually the people of Russia will get fed up with their own system and its methods and manners and their conflict will rise up within their own shores and borders. The big frightful thing of these two nations is they have nukes, and who knows what faction will get them if they have an internal uprising. the same is true with Pakistan. Too many other countries sit on their butt, rather than group together to fight Terrorism, and the bulk of the Middle East countries sit silent as long as they can profit highly from oil during conflicts, they would rather be silent in support of conflict to help their profits and may even pay to keep the conflict going to increase their profits. If these things escalate to another World War, it may even bring multiple nukes to wipe out most of the Middle East, Its a sad reality, but it is not unthinkable on the world stage of where and what war becomes.
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