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Chemical weapons in Syria As you may noticed that the most current event is chemical weapon killed at least 1,429 people including 426 in Syria. It is an inconceivable horror that the region killed its own civilians. Our primary ally, British, has voted to reject attack Syria. It sounds to me that USA will go it alone to attack Syria. President Obama said “no boots on the ground approach”, that means no troops, no soldiers will be in Syria. I think he will use “smart bomb”, “missiles” and “drone” to surgically attack the precise military sites or buildings to dramatically reduce the casualties of our soldiers. U.S.A. has been a “world policemen” for many years. WWII, Korea war, Vietnam war, Iraq war (twice, father and of Bush), Afghanistan, and now Syria. To engage in a war will spend lots of money and sacrifice many lives and the results have been blamed by domestic and international people. I like to travel, but NEVER been to any “Mid-East” region because I don’t understand their religion, tradition, culture, thoughts. They force their women to wear "burkas", or cover from neck down. They stone women to dead, or put women in jail when the women have been . Women can’t drive cars or have education. I would like to help “Mid-East” women but I know I shouldn’t involve. This kind of “barbarism” is simply incompatible. I won’t step-in those regions even Egypt and Israel because I don’t want to put myself in jeopardy. A girl in Pakistan, Milala Yousafzai, had been shot on her head in close range because she advocated that “girls have right to be educated”, luckily she survived. I once dated a guy who is a Muslim (I didn’t know until I met him), I can’t even lunch with him because he doesn’t eat pork and Chinese eat pork. He listened to Arabic music which I don’t understand. So, after a coffee, I said “Good-bye” and NEVER see him. Isn't this world simpler, if there is no God? Muslim men can have four wives but women can only have one husband. How can you change “Mid-East” region by a war? They have their own minds, thoughts, religion, cultures, languages that we don’t understand them, they don’t understand us. To have a war or not to have a war in Syria will be a dilemma for Obama. Honesty is the best policy. |
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Thank you for your compliment. However, there are NOTHING I can do for Assad to give up chemical weapons or stop the civil war. I really don't understand Assad who is an Eye Doctor. Every MD has to swear to save lives to the best of his/her ability. Why did Assad want to use chemical weapons to kill his own civilians? I don't know. Honesty is the best policy.
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Did Assad regime hand out their entire chemical weapons to U.N. yet? Anybody follow-up this matter? It seems to me that Obama is more concentrate on "government shutdown" and "debt ceiling" lately, that will give Assad the opportunity NOT to give up their chemical weapons entirely to avert an attack by USA. It is NOT an easy job as a President of United State, the leader of free world. Honesty is the best policy.
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To pinkcrystal; Thank you for your responses and compliments. I am glad that there is YOU to agree with me about the religion - "Agnostic". I was a Catholic for my first 30+ years because I was born into a Catholic family. As I grew older, I realized I don't want to "think inside the box", so I chose Agnostic that is NOT exactly "Atheist" but totally different from any religions. I am "Thinking Outside of Box". Lots of people don't agree with me, I understand. It is giant change for everyone concern. As far as the gender, women in USA is consider to be more fortunate than any country in the world. Women can have education, the right to vote, reach as far as you want to be. Women in USA have more freedom and "Respect" than any place in the world. I have been living in USA for 33 and half years, I like this country except "Gun Control" that is NOT enforced as much as I want. People in USA still can get guns easily. Too many killings in schools, street, malls, movie theater, .... I strongly object to NRA (National Rifle Association). To own a gun equals to have violence. I simply against NRA. This world needs "peace" NOT "violence". NRA is stupid. What country you are in now? Have you ever come to USA? I think USA is very generous to all the immigrants who came from any country in the world. I hope I answered your questions. Thank you for your responses and I wish you to have a great weekend. Honesty is the best policy.
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When the days that we don't need "oil" to drive cars, that will be the down days for those Arabians. Don't they know all the people were born from "Women"? How can they treat their women that way? Stupid Arabian men. So ridiculous !! The recent carnage at a shopping mall in Kenya is another example of their stupidity. Islamic militants killed at least 67 people and injured more than 100 people at a shopping mall for no reason. They let the Muslims leave but killed all others. They tested Koran to the people at the mall. This is outrageous. I enjoy shopping very much. Shopping is supposed to be a relaxing and enjoyment but now it became a "killing field". What kind of world we are in? I repeat what I said before "We don't understand Muslims and they don't understand us". I am a secular humanist. I only want to save people from disease/ sickness, but NOT harm anyone. That's why I am an Agnostic. I don't understand why people don't know religions are to separate people from different beliefs. Why they need to defend for their God? Human is doing human's things. There is no God. If there is a God, please stop those killings or nature disasters before happened. God is supposed very mighty to prevent any unfortunate things happened. Where is God when we need Him? Why the prayers didn't work? Honesty is the best policy.
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We are as a nation and the world... in " Pause" Mode. Maybe we can hope for a course correction .. As some Senators said: We have spent 1.6 Trillion dollars (actually 2 Trillion+ along with assuming more than 5-8 trillion in debts) and lots of weapons fired and people killed maimed and much else... Still in the Middle East, nothing has much changed. The Soviets, tried for many years to modernize this region and failed, before that the French tried, and many others have tried, and it is still the same as it was... They are still fighting each other. Repressing the women and in many regards remaining with various all consuming dogmasof mindsets that continue to promote more of the same. At some point the world might figure it out... Unless you give all the kids ear plugs and blindfolds, They will only continue to promote more of the same.. (THAT IS SAD).. When areas reject allowing the people to modernize their mentalities, and they keep their women contained in repressive systems, while allowing cleric's to influence the landscape of the communities. Moreso, allowing their religious factions to control the governing process... nothing will change. Bombs and Bullets simply can't change that. 100's of billions of dollars have been spent to blow up rocks and sand in Afghanistan, has done nothing but blown up rocks and sand while various "groups" of militia's each with varying ideas roam the barren lands spending a fortune on weapons simply to kill, has resulted to killed a lot of people and turned many citizens into nomads... and still, nothing has changed. America can't contain and remedy the situations of gangs in cities living like urban terrorist, nor can it stop the kids killing each other, shooting up schools, corporations stealing and lying, banks running criminal organizations that have become national monopolies, and dumb business men seeking slaves of foreign soils... It cannot contain the wild media and their selling and marketing of indentured servitude programming, while they work to develop mob mentalities in a divisive progressive aim. While bigotry today is as robust as it was in the 1800's.... and we speed head first into a repeat of 1929 Great Depression... with over inflated stock and high speculation which becomes the modern day robber and business crashing machine. Our schools are declining, some closing because of low birth rate over the past 30 years, communities crumble and tax revenue to support schools vanish. We now have people claiming ownership of 10's of billions in personal wealth, while we have a nation of many working for less than $10 an hour. when we have a system where it cost more than $50-55 dollars a day to live with basic amenities and utility, and yet we have minimum wage jobs that pay less than $60 dollars a day. And we appear to think we are doing fine, because a few people with suits and 'paid for get a job certificates" tell us, that we are doing fine. Potholes line the streets, bridges crumble and highways that are 20 years past their lifespan, become a trail spanning across the nations, where it use to be a pristine highway. We've brought back train's more than a mile long each, filled with war equipment coming back form the Middle East, with no method, mean and not even a plan for its usage. All the while the military industrial complex is happy, because they made a fortune many times over. Gun manufacturers insuring there is no less than the equivalent of 10+ guns of each gun type, created on the market, and highly promoted. and still we have not even began to address the political corruptions that continues to bring destruction by their every vote. Now where in this picture do we have the means and the support to try and fix Syria, Iraq, or any other place for that matter? We have veterans, who can't get the care they need, and deception and pretentious programs, that shuffle them around in a circle with false hope of pending services that result to be never delivered or provided. these are the sons and daughters of the struggling Americans, who become the forgotten casualties... while the wealthy gain more and more wealth. Today's News: WASHINGTON (AP) -- The gulf between the richest 1 percent and the rest of America is the widest it's been since the Roaring '20s. The very wealthiest Americans earned more than 19 percent of the country's household income last year — their biggest share since 1928, the year before the stock market crash. And the top 10 percent captured a record 48.2 percent of total earnings last year. U.S. income inequality has been growing for almost three decades. And it grew again last year, according to an analysis of Internal Revenue Service figures dating to 1913 by economists at the University of California, Berkeley, the Paris School of Economics and Oxford University. One of them, Berkeley's Emmanuel Saez, said the incomes of the richest Americans surged last year in part because they cashed in stock holdings to avoid higher capital gains taxes that took effect in January. In 2012, the incomes of the top 1 percent rose nearly 20 percent compared with a 1 percent increase for the remaining 99 percent. the great sham promoted by the PhD's continues. Economists point to several reasons for widening income inequality. In some industries, U.S. workers now compete with low-wage labor in China and other developing countries. Clerical and call-center jobs have been outsourced to countries such as India and the Philippines.) Still, he added: "We need to decide as a society whether this increase in income inequality is efficient and acceptable." ______________________________________________________
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I feel it is a trap from Russian Putin and Syria Assad because Putin said on G-20 Summit few days ago that he is backing Assad and during CBS reporter, Charlie Rose interview, Assad said his government doesn't have "chemical weapons". All the sudden, Putin wants to persuade Assad hand over the chemical weapons that Assad denied he NEVER had. Go figures !! Something is very fishy, it probably is a trap to avoid Obama attack Syria. Tomorrow is 9/11, what a timing???? Honesty is the best policy.
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President Barack Obama’s campaign for an attack on Syria took an unexpected turn as his administration inadvertently gave the Assad regime a potential way out that spawned second thoughts on Capitol Hill and enthusiasm among international opponents of a military strike. After Secretary of State John Kerry suggested in off-the-cuff comments that President Bashar al-Assad could avert an attack by promptly handing his chemical weapons to the international community, Russia declared its support and quickly got Damascus on board. The shift, which Obama called “a potentially positive development,” paused a Senate debate and complicated the president’s pitch to a reluctant country. He began to lay out his case to Americans in TV interviews on Monday, in advance of a prime-time address to the nation on Tuesday. The Russian proposal threatened to further erode support for military action, and lawmakers seized on it to avoid a vote that even in the Democratic-controlled Senate was appearing in doubt, a trend likely detected by White House officials. However, administration officials and many lawmakers also expressed skepticism about the offer, citing the record of Assad and his ally, Russian President Vladimir Putin, during the 2 ½ -year civil war. I don't like war, but I don't trust Assad or Putin. Honesty is the best policy.
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A question raised, is Obama sending a message that other country (regime) can have civil war so long NOT using "chemical weapons" - Sarin gas? I am a Democrat and voted Obama twice. Honesty is the best policy.
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Quoting Worldly_51: I lived/worked in Muslim countries for almost 6 yrs, did spend lots of time reading the Qur'an/ studying Arabic and talking to my Muslim friends/colleagues, but still can't claim to have understood them. The same for the US, where I studied/worked for 11 yrs, but still don't understand the idiocy/bigotry of NRA and Wall Street. I think I know USA much better than Arabic regions. I've been living & working in CA since 1980 (33 years) longer than my birthplace, Taiwan. USA promotes/ advocates "Democracy" and wants every country in the world to have justice. From WWII, "cold war" with Russia, Korea war, Vietnam war, USA fought against "communists". When Iraq invaded Kuwait, Bush Sr. sent troops to Middle East and stepped on Saudi Arabia that made Osama bin Ladin very mad. bin Ladin hated Americans and trained many young Muslim idiots in Afghanistan to kill Americans. bin Ladin told those stupid Muslim boys that if they kill Americans, they can go to heaven and have 72 wives after they died. (Who needs so many girls in heaven? Who knows anything when you died? go figure !) Anyway, bin Ladin chose that dreadful day, 9/11/2001 morning on 4 American's airplanes, hijacked the pilots and took over those 4 planes flew into World Trade twin towers and Pentagon, .... you all know what happened that day. (BTW, 9/11 is very near from now) Bush Jr. was the U.S. president, he started to strike back from Afghanistan Taliban, searched for bin Ladin, live or dead. However, he also sent troops to Iraq to finish the war that his father didn't finish. Bush Jr. killed Saddam Hussein but NEVER found bin Ladin in his 2 term presidency. Obama sent "Seal" to find bin Ladin and killed him. For those wars above, USA lost too many soldiers but no country appreciated what USA has done for them. In USA, our people complained too. For those wars, we spent too much money and too many lives and took too long time. This time, Syria used "chemical weapons" Sarin to bomb its innocent civilians which Obama thinks Syria has broken the "international norm". So, Obama wants to punish Syria to make sure no other country (or regime) use "chemical weapons". Obama wants no soldier on Syria ground and it will be a quick war. Let's hear what Obama will say in his speech tonight. Al-Assad accepted a TV interview by Charlie Rose on CBS and said he didn't use gas attack his people and USA has no evidence that his government did. Al-Assad wants John Kerry to show evidences. Honesty is the best policy.
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Another well-known example was the breakup in the Indian sub-continent into India and Pakistan (back then E Pakistan, which is now Bangladesh, and W Pakistan - the present Pakistan), again, w/ little regards for their religious, linguistic or ethnic differences. Similarly, the same high-handed idiocy happened in Africa. Some Americans, in their usual simple-minded approach towards politics, fail to read/understand history w/ adequate intelligence; thus, the US has often stormed into situations like bulls in a china shop Yes, I agree... People like to forget what the Western Nations did on many lands, with their drawing of lines in the sand, all in the aim to control resources, and play policy shift games, whenever they felt it gave them a upper hand to control something. The result is the people of those nations did not matter, it was all about , divide and conquer and take the spoils and pursue them as profits at the expense of the people they were taken from. Sadly, After World War II the delusion of world power and the all powerful police nation mentality became a sickness in this country. We stomped around the globe for years, with a delusion that everyone else was second rate, pushing our agenda, without the full force of being diplomatic. We used the illusion of power.. and the results contribute to the global madness that exist. We were not alone in this sickness, We were aided by every nation that has a predominantly Caucasian majority base, some nations did their dirt and claimed they were innocent, such as the Nordic Regional nations, they plundered and then went home and claimed neutral while they continue to fund conflicts from a distance. all so they can live to a ultra high standard, off the resources and toils of others, and remain non suspect to a world that is blinded to see the truths. I speak about this variety of stuff on various blogs, as well as when I speak about the economic aims of the Slaver Nation Mentality, of seeking work slaves on foreign soil, to avert economic equilibrium from being available to women, minorities and poor whites. the result is, the cost of offshore productions is, broken families and communities, bankrupt cities and a crumbling infrastructure, and singing songs about decades ago building success, While current day, every nation that this country went to seeking slave labor, is not ahead of this nation in infrastructure building, uplift of people on a % basis and and many other successes. while a small circle of the wealthy claim mass profits while the masses are relegated to food stamps and clerk jobs, in a nation where the cost of living is at a high standard than the income can meet, yet all the profits remain at the top. We have become a nation talking about workers rights, when we bust unions to avoid treating workers fair and paying them a living wage and we have a right wing that has still the slaver mindset that it does not want to support health care for all the people. The delusion of image does not match with the reality across the landscape. yet we are trying to govern from a distance the conduct of foreign nations. While we can't get over the racism and bigotry that has driven this nation into a second rate standard. Yes there are many good things among the people in America, and much good will in the average citizen, but out politicians are corrupt and interested more in filling their pockets and remaining in office, than actually doing the jobs they were sent to do. The people believe too much in the delusions pushed in the media, rather than use the single voice to challenge the corruptions of banks, insurance companies, medical companies and the stupid PhD's who tell them its cheaper to produce over-seas, when the cost of doing so has taken down once great cities. But people believe anything someone in a suit has to say and then they will follow anything people with money tell them is the thing to do. The loss of individual character is a sickness, led by reality TV, Profane Entertainers, and TV shows that sell nothing but murder plots, images of mass destruction and inhuman characters and then the youth are lost in the consumption with gadgets, that ever 3 months they are led like fools to buy the next advertised model, when they can't use the all the functions on the previous model.. But the aim of status based on acquiring commercial products, has made a material society. Love now is about economics, and too many women live like they are a commodity, and treat sex as if they think its something that give her the avenue to act and fool, abuse and be insidious in even general social conduct. In this setting, soon as they get an income, they become to self consumed to have any regard to respect what is building a family and how to appreciate a man as a person. We are on a fast track of decline of every sort. Our business people can't make humane decisions, because they ware worried about status and title and playing up to the name game. The delusion of 'no money" has people accepting things to fall apart and then make excuses why they can't fix or upgrade anything. No we don't have any room to try and fight other peoples wars, We wasted 2 trillion dollars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and that does not include the cost of medical expense and other cost that puts the real figure at 4-5 trillion when we add in the Military Industrial Complex Rip Off that became a part of the losses. Nope, Let the world community make their stand and push to address Syria... It is not an America Province. If the coalition choose to do something, that is one things, but we are not the nation that needs to ship billions and 100's of billion of dollars of equipment across the sea, when we have ships still bring back trillions of dollars of equipment that was sent there over the past 10 or more years. We sent over carts of cash, and passed it out like it was bubble gum, and we achieved nothing in the end, because Iraq and Afghanistan is still a mess, this does not even begin to address the way we sold our so called Democracy Nation to the Communist Nation of China, all so the wealthy could profit and try and use the Chinese people as a new slave port for production.. The result of cost is, within 30 years, the transfer of wealth from America to China has practically been achieved. to an alarming level, Where we can't survive without Chinese Underwriting, and Arab Oil Nations Underwriting. Still ... the wealthy have lined up even more things to sell off.
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No country is as shiny as its propaganda... every nations may need to consider carefully how they ingest their own publicity.. what we do see and know is that these regions of Arab nation do have a very high volume of blowing up people and things... We can't help but know it because its a daily news items with commentary and images of the act and fact it happened. Who, and Why, is another different perspective of angle to grasp. We have conflicts among people across the globe, but we have more of the blowing up things centered in one cultural region, and it is more highly common in and area that promote highly its religious stand over many other stands as its motivating driver in many of the factions who engage to blow up things and people. Burkas are no more ugly than jeans or G-string bikinis, the important thing is to give women the choice to decide what they want. In many of these areas, the women are not given the choice, and that is much of the point being discussed about the treatment of women.. is the lack of choice under these Islamic sectors, who deny that choice.
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another point that was discussed, was concerning the fact that some of these weapons may fall in the wrong hands, if there are any mis-caculation in attack coordinates or by some means the security around these weapons become compromised and lead to these weapons finding their way into the hands of those who may seek broad based malice. We also don't know the affiliation the Syrian Regime has to links with radical who aim to promote their Jihad aspirations. Nor do we know if these weapons will be transferred to these factions to avoid the destruction of the weapons. There are many unknowns in the scenarios. I doubt the US or any Coalition can guarantee 100% containment of these weapons. Soon as the concerns for a strike were publicized, it is quite logical that the movement of these weapons went into overdrive... this alone can be a breach to the security that is needed to secure the locations where these weapons will be housed. Maybe the aim should be at taking out the leadership... and have the UN to get enough backbone to put in a Intern Leadership, until some type of election can be structured and held to elect a leader the people can agree upon. maybe they may even need a leadership panel rather than a single person as a leader. However things proceed it is dangerous, and no one should be under any delusion that some 'closed in action" is going to be achieved. That seems quite impractical considering the multiple of factions that are engaged in these internal Syrian conflicts. We can't be lulled into some complacency about what is security, nor thinking we are all powerful to exact some actions that is a end all scenario, based on a military actions of this nature. We are not unaware people, We should be well aware of the results of Iraq, the aim there was first for weapons, then to take out the leader, and what resulted was 10 years of death and destruction, and still there is instability in Iraq. You can't change the ideology of people with a bomb or bullets.. there are fundamental things that formulate the foundations behind both side, and they go far and beyond surface political differences. In these regions the religion is within the structure of the foundation, therefore it is religion that is within the make up of the political foundations of all factions. These aspects of Religious Ideology is the driver of much within the conflicts that exist. They may have all these elements, then compound that with economic, human rights and social conditions of secular divides... We too often try to see things as if they are contained in a simple box, this is often our mistake as well as the mistake of others. We want to box and label things that have too many elements to fit within the box. Maybe the key is to find ways to 'link the boxes"... this is where diplomacy become the functioning process. But first people have to be willing to talk, then they must be willing to compromise and they must be committed to finding a viable solution. Anything short of that is : "Conflict" It is and has been historically difficult to bridge the dogma's of secular ideologies and there are many forces that support various dogmatic ideological concepts, and there are aims for various dogma's to dominate and in the aim to dominate, some dogmatic ideologies have a singular aim, to eliminate by destruction the other ideological dogmatic factions. These are not Democratic systems, they are extremely far from the concept of being anything remotely close to Democratic systems. Therefore thinking and deal within them from a concept of Democratic foundations, is and will miss the reality of what is being dealt with. Because it simply does not conform to adopt itself to Democratic ideals. It would take Martial Law Impositions to force unity compliance, and that will take much work to maintain Martial Law, because the factions will not cease to over-throw it. These are elements that are about 'Belief system"... with direct Religious Convictions to their dogmas and the beliefs that support their concepts which construct the dogmatic processes. Now, how do you wipe out that historical infused reality? Without wiping out the whole of the masses. Maybe we may need to go back and look at the Bosnian and Serb conflicts and see what worked and what did not work... Sadly, history already shows us, that division of state land mass is nothing but a time bomb process, we see that with what the British tried to do with India and Pakistan. Other Arab/Islamic Nations are watching, and what ever happens here will have reprecussive or reflective actions in other States of the Region. We forget the conflicts in Egypt is not settled, nor is it a done deal. Iraq is still unstable, and Afghanistan is unstable. Now look at the list of Arab countries. 2) Bahrain*1 Population: 738,004 Official Language: Arabic 3) Comoros1 Population: 773,407 Official Languages: Arabic and French 4) Djibouti*1 Population: 740,528 Official Languages: Arabic and French 5) Egypt*1 Population: 80,471,869 Official Language: Arabic 6) Iraq*1 Population: 29,671,605 Official Languages: Arabic and Kurdish (only in Kurdish regions) 7) Jordan*1 Population: 6,407,085 Official Language: Arabic 8 Kuwait*1 Population: 2,789,132 Official Language: Arabic 9) Lebanon*1 Population: 4,125,247 Official Language: Arabic 10) Libya*1 Population: 6,461,454 Official Languages: Arabic, Italian and English 11) Malta* Population: 406,771 Official Language: Maltese and English 12) Mauritania*1 Population: 3,205,060 Official Language: Arabic 13) Morocco*1 Population: 31,627,428 Official Language: Arabic 14) Oman*1 Population: 2,967,717 Official Language: Arabic 15) Qatar*1 Population: 840,926 Official Language: Arabic 16) Saudi Arabia*1 Population: 25,731,776 Official Language: Arabic 17) Somalia*1 Population: 10,112,453 Official Language: Somali 18 Sudan*1 Population: 43,939,598 Official Language: Arabic and English 19) Syria*1 Population: 22,198,110 Official Language: Arabic 20) Tunisia*1 Population: 10,589,025 Official Language: Arabic and French 21) United Arab Emirates*1 Population: 4,975,593 Official Language: Arabic 22) Western Sahara Population: 491,519 Official Languages: Hassaniya Arabic and Moroccan Arabic 23) Yemen*1 Population: 23,495,361 Official Language: Arabic __________________________________________ Unless the whole region changes, conflict will simply move from one country to the next... and the cycle is already in its procession of movements.
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Something is going to happen, because the world can't allow these use of these weapons on people. We don't know where wind drifts will take these chemicals, or how they will spread their effects. I don't know if its a good idea for Russia to put the aim and pursuit of money gains above the value of human lives to such a degree. ( but we know this is a trait that is within mankind). One thing is certain, No nation is Perfect, but America does try to have a front row and many times and out front stance against atrocities that are blatant abuses of human beings. ( yes we have needs to improve race relations within the US but we are not 'using chemical weapons on people to contain them). Good that Nations about the world do take a stand. I also don't understand why China stands against any efforts of nations to address these things. China wants to gain profit from everyone, but they are among the back row runners, when it come to taking any stand to support doing something to fight terrorism, or to stand against the use of Chemical Weapons. I don't even know if taking Assaid Out is the complete answer, but in many ways he needs to go.. and the WORLD COMMUNITY, may need to stand up to support a regime that will promote humane respect of people...
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Okay, let's just discussion my topic "Chemical Weapons in Syria" without derail to "Religion differences". As far as I know from news that Syria already had civil war that has been going on for 2 & 1/2 years and claimed over 100,000 Syrian lives, but on August 21 someone possibly Al-Assad used "Chemical Weapons" - Sarin (a nerve gas) to strike his innocent civilians and caused 1,429 lives. Chemical weapons have caused only a small fraction of the deaths in Syria's civil war, but the response they have provoked echoes that from wars around the world during the 20th century. Obama called "using chemical weapons has crossed the "Red Line" for "international norm". Both Russia and China (have veto privileges) reject to punish Syria by launching missiles to strike Syrian regime. Our ally, British, also voted NOT to join with U.S. to bomb Syria. Many allies including French President said Syria using chemical weapons should be punished, but they all told Obama to wait for U.N. investigation result and approval. Russia President, Putin said in G-20 Summit that he will continue to support Syria weapons to defense. Obama got "senator" approval but waiting for congressman vote in next week. So, obviously the tipping point for Obama want to strike Syrian regime was "Chemical Weapons". Otherwise, Obama would intervened since Syria civil war begun. 1,429 deaths in chemical weapons is just a small proportion of 100,000 deaths that civil war caused. Hope you join my discussion, if you have your different opinions. Thanks for your responses and join in my blogs. I feel I am very fortunate to live in Western world and have Democracy. So, as an Asian woman, I can speak out my opinions for justice, having education, wear fashion dresses, .... in comparison of communist and Muslim/ Islam world. I wish this is a peaceful world. Nobody likes to have war. However, the chemical weapons seems to be a last straw to break Obama's back. Honesty is the best policy.
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As with any subject of any blog, it may take on many elements of focal points. as with any circle.. in basic there is 360 points of access of which each of the 360 points may become each a focus of axis of address to the circle,
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As I said before, I don't want to influence or persuade anyone to have same thinking as mine. We all have different thinking that's why our Constitution said Freedom of speech, religion and press. I simply want to say what I believe. I have a blog about "Religion" posted here. Honesty is the best policy.
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I believe in God, but I don't aspire to the multitudes of religious institutional dogma's.. and rituals. For me, I don't think believing in God is filled with the rituals many organizations use as 'hooks".. one has to believe in a higher power for their own understanding and regards. I don't worship Pastor's, Preachers, Pope's and the likes. they are "teachers"... and all do not have the basic honesty in motive and intention, but likewise so, if they do have basic and honest motives and intentions, they are human beings. I don't believe in the evolution theory, I do however think that time does being some levels of changes, but I don't believe I evolved from some sea tadpole or such. It is true that many religious teaching do divide people, that is something I never understood, but I also attribute that to "man" and the pursuit of money and power, seeking influence and dominance over other mankind. I also see woman, as man's help mate, not inferior or lesser than, but simply a help mate, who has a different body design which aids in the facilitation of reproduction. It's often people as I said earlier, make separatist distinction based on which particular church another goes to. All these things are "man made".... I never believed in the concept of the European coming to America and telling the existing Indian's that their concept of God was wrong. I also don't grasp the concept of "Kings and Queens" very well. but I do see a need in a communal society for some forms of leadership. As to the continual and incessant bombing and killing of masses of people in the Middle East, I find to be utterly stupid... and especially the radical and fanatical factions with some crazy claim that God told them to kill others. Or the vanity of ignorance of thinking that by killing someone they are going to some after life and be given some virgins, that has to be to me one of the stupidest hooks ever used and its not even imaginable to me how anyone could be driven to believe such silliness. I don't know where the spirit of life goes, when the body dies... but I don't think it just dissipates into nothingness.
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To goannaoil: Thank you for your compliment. Honesty is the best policy.
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I don't like the dictator Al Assad using chemical weapon to kill innocent civilians, don't like Osama bin Ladin sent 18 young idiots to USA using American airplanes flew into our buildings and killed more than 3,000 lives on that dreadful day, 9/11/2001. Don't like Taliban forced Afghanistan women to wear ugly burkas. Don't like suicide bombers, ..... and all those stupid Arab mentalities. They use the religion to brainwash people. They hate Americans including allies (Westerners). They don't know what is right from wrong. They are NOT educated. We don't understand them and they don't understand us. I don't like extremists or crazy about "Religion". Although I am NOT a Christian anymore (used to be a Catholic for my first 30 years), but I don't harm anyone. I don't pray to any God for what I wish for. I do my best to reach my goal. I don't want to go to heaven or hell because there is no such places. Religions can divide people because they are too crazy about their dogmas. They believe as long as they believe in their God, they will go to heaven when died. I don't intend to change anyone, nor been changed. I believe in "Golden rule" - Do unto others as you would have them unto you. I am very simple person but NOT religious. I don't depend on God to give me a better life or go to heaven. There are too many conflicts in between different religions. I am out of religion and peaceful. Nobody can preach me to any religion. Most of my email friends are highly educated (MD, PhD, CEO, physicist, ....) and they are either atheists or agnostics or NOT religious. We believe we were born from parents and only one life, but we want to make best out of this life. I like USA, but don't like too much "freedom" owning "gun" and "weapon". Look our society, too easy getting access of gun and weapon, so when someone crazy one day, they shoot innocent people. Don't tell me, people kill people, gun can't kill people. If someone knows where a gun is, in the back of his/ her mind, someday they will use that gun. As "chemical weapon" that is even worse, you know that. I hope I made myself clear who I am and what I stand for. Honesty is the best policy.
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because that is what people wanted to address within the blogs spectrum... the flow of the conversation was not all about weapons, it was about the treatment of women, as well as factions blowing up others, terrorism and variables of religious ideologies. That question was not meant as a mere question, it's meant with angle... but if you'd read the post, they are self explanatory.
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I think it's a bad idea to go there, because there is no such thing as 'bombing another country, and thinking they won't do something in return"... that is not even logical to assume them just accept it. Next comes the weapon sales, then comes the advisers, and following that the boots go on the ground, along with all the Covert for hire missionary type of organizations, hired to fight a secondary war behind the scenes. While this is talking place, the bankers began stealing again, Wall Streets, starts to ramp up the lying game and selling mis labeled stock with fake ratings. the Oil speculators see a windfall to raise the price of fuel... and terrorism opens up to pursue multiple avenues on multiple targets. Money get's shipped over there in baskets, while it cost billions to turn the ships and trains around and send all that equipment back to the Middle East, and then the war profiteers ramp up to make more cheap equipment to ship there. The bullet makers will have a field day, selling train loads of bullets to shot into the sand and hills, while the remainder of the nation which they have not already blown up gets blown up... and Haliburton will again go into high theft and high rip off mode. In the end, a lot of people gets killed, and an already strained VA Medical system will go into higher degree's of over-load and services will diminish and the cry about Money will become the new shockwave across America. This time there is no more home equity to play dupe the people and deplete to pretend the economy is working, we saw what happen the last time they set the game in motion to drain off the equity as a delusion that the economy was working and when people spent the Money and over sold the homes and wall street over traded the paper, the result was no value was left, and economic collapse hit the world stage. the delusion of Wall Street Money is a sham, its based on over value of stock, in companies that could never have production and sales to match the over inflated value that stocks trade. then the speculation bubble crashes, a so called market correction comes, the wealthy cash out and the small and medium investors are left holding empty bags, and Wall Street will crash another long list of companies. what results is the greatest depression beyond what anyone could imagine. It does not take a A bomb to crash the world... it takes acts that are built upon delusions of grandeur Let the Arabs gather together and deal with Syria... They sit on their ass and let this stuff develop... after all these years and all the bombing and all the dictators, they have done not one thing to curtail this madness. There are enough secret military groups around the world, that could take out the leader of Syria in no time. the only reason he is still a leader is because it is profitable to other Arab nations.
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To 55Mark55: Yes, you are right. This chemical weapon attacked its own civilians started from civil war and already claimed 110,000+ lives according to the news I read. So, it is NOT a religion war. Thank you to point it out. Honesty is the best policy.
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To tiara26: I thank you again to reply my blog. Yes, I Googled Hoshyar Foundation and saw the video that Malala Yousafza was in there. USA has spent so much money on attacking Afghanistan, Iraq, now Syria. I think USA should donate those money to Hoshyar Foundation, this way is the peaceful method to change the whole region's mentality. I also emailed out and told all my email friends to Google "Hoshyar Foundation" and donate money to this foundation. Now I understand you a little bit more. You came from Indonesia, NOT from Mid-East where the desert is. You chose to be a teacher in education and realized how important of education. I am an Agnostic. I doubt there is a God. My opinions about religion might be too provocative for some people to accept. I believe we only have one life. There is no "past life" or "after life". Once we die, we don't go to heaven or hell. (Why do you think there are only two kinds of people or two places to go?) If there is a God, God doesn't need money to build church, mosque, temple, .... to worship God. Pastors are human too. Why worship pastors to donate tithes to build bigger church? When Japan had a 8.9 magnitude earthquake in 3-2011, you kneed down to pray to God to stop this horrible disaster, did God appear to save lives? In criminal case, why the God didn't stop the murderer before the killing? If you still object my opinion, please let your God talk to me. If one day God talk to me, I will believe. But up to this date, I still haven't heard from God. There were no miracles. There are only human doing human think. I am NOT an atheist because I leave a room for possible that one day God will talk to me. (smile) Honesty is the best policy.
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As to Russia: Russia does not want to face the truth of the Chemical attacks and the countless 1000's who have been killed, because it is delighting in selling Arms to Syria. But Russia also is not very high on the human rights issues promotions. They are still stuck with many ideal from a Communist dominance mentality. They don't regard the abuse of people as a high priority issue, because history of communism does not respect nor regard individuals, It is about state based dominance to do what ever the state wants to do without regard to the opinions of the people. Therefore, listening to Putin, is futile... He is still stuck in 1960 Communist dominance ideals. Not one thing has he said about the poor treatment of women in these Arab Nations. He simply does not care to address or show concern for or about it. China, seem to have little concern for the chemical attacks, the poor treatment of women, or the countless lives that have been lost, , because it is not big on supporting any intent about human rights corrections either in China or other countries that have a history and system of oppressive manner and conduct. Nor is it in strong support of full equality for women as individuals. If it did, it would first support it in China. As for the other Arab nation, who are calling on the US to do something, The US should tell them, to get off their own butts and do something rather than sit in their palaces hoarding money and behind the scenes promoting the same madness in their own country. The US should not stick its neck out there as some stand alone entity, let these other Arab nation be on the front line for change, and if they don't then they need to spend their money to fund any efforts the US makes. and if they are not going to fund it, then shut up, and stop expecting someone else to come and fight their battles. then the next day they want to turn around and support terrorism against the US. I don't see how these Arab nations can be trusted. they don't even trust themselves, for if they did , they would not be blowing each other up everyday, and continuing from Arab country to Arab country supporting the madness of dressing women in that Garb and then attacking people with some moral police squads and radical factions attacking people with no prosecution of these attacking forces. Time continues to show, that no amount of effort can help people who seemingly have forces that refuse to learn, grow, or change. I would not vote to send one soldier there to get killed for something the people will revert back to doing when the forces leave, they will be back to doing the same things they were doing before, as soon as they can. I still say if they want change.. let the women 'take out the radicals in their sleep" until the rest of the men realize they too will be taken out, unless they change.
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I saw some of the extremists in a way some elderly Muslims I came across when I was in Indonesia, it was not some thing like killing people , NO. But the way they view those who is different from them, to the point where they gotten so judgmental towards Christianity , Buddhist, Hinduism .. or those whose atheist What they said only have shared among themselves in their Mosque or family gathering. but the impact are huge especially for the young Muslims generations who happened to be there and listening to them. These are almost like a doctrine .. A wrong legacy to me that needed A Stop . The lack of compassion in the way they approach the difference among us, was alarming to me ( personally ) Then I came to USA and joined A Pakistani based Mosque not too long ago, to my surprise they did the same thing with the mosque I went to when I was young in Indonesia. So I stop going there, because no use of speaking out & say my objection,.. as a woman .. and for Pakistani -- woman with different views or opinions are not very important to them, they may listen to you ... and that's all it ____________________________________________________ These are the points that push the extremist to become radicals... an ultimately in some that leads to the violence and motives of violence toward others, as well as toward those within the Muslim program, to be attacked by the Muslims who can't and won't accept being indoctrinated into the extremist and radical views. It's great that you moved away and grasp a broader understanding of people in the over-all. But sadly, there are so many young people still trapped in the dogma of extremist... this is what is dangerous about how the religion is taught. As you said: What they said only have shared among themselves in their Mosque or family gathering. but the impact are huge especially for the young Muslims generations who happened to be there and listening to them Sadly, there are extremist in every religion, and there are those who promote these dogmatic concepts that become a danger to others. I once worked with a guy who convert to Muslim, he became one that everyone wanted to avoid, he had a problem with what people chose to eat, and he was on a perpetual mission to try and change people to convert them to his way of thinking, and he began to develop anguished resentment toward people who would not listen to or submit to his ideals... His wife left him and did what she could to keep the kids away from him and ultimately he became more and more extreme, until he created many situations where hostilities were common when he was around or with whom he was interacting with. Can't remember what ever became of him, but I do know that people resented him for a long time for the method and manner he went about trying to convert them and if he could not convert people, he condemned them in his mind and by his actions toward them. there are too, Christian people who can be with the same mentality when they want to continously preach to others and insinuate that others have to submit to their way of thinking. I see some people who carry a bible every place they go, as if they have to prove to everyone else how holy they feel they are. here in this area where I live, people will ask you what Church you go to be fore they even grasp your name. Some will act like they think their church is better than another and want to treat of look down on people who don't act like they want to rush over to the church this person is preaching about. There are people who always talk about "my pastor", as if they worship the pastor more than they are concerned about the teaching of the Bibles principles. I know ministers, who act put off if people don't always refer to them as Pastor as if they are beholding to this person. I have seen some come in to talk about a business arrangement, and push that Pastor stature rather than talk about the business and the guidelines of the contract. When I encounter them, I call them, Mr. xxxx, ( what ever their name is), to get the point that they are talking about business, and their position as a Pastor does not change the contract to become to give them concessions. I see Businesses with big signs, saying "God Bless" and "Jesus Saves', and some of those places will tack on charges just like any other business and some of them don't give the best of service. One group of ministers open a Restaurant, and named it " The Last Supper"... it did not help his business any !!! there are some churches that want people to bring in their Tax returns, to insure the people are committing 10% of their salary to the Church... then there are the Churches, that are forever having ' Pastor fund raising events", such as Pastor's Anniversary, where the church is suppose to give him money. I don't care for those kind of Churches, nor for the Ministers who spend half the morning talking about tides, and its always done with an edge to try and instill guilt as a tool to make people give more. some Ministers do the circuit things, where they visit each other's church, because they get paid by the church to come, so they are in a constant cycle of rotation on this money gain circuit. The big thing now, is each Pastor trying to have the biggest church, one guy even took over a shopping Mall, rather than to realize this was a business area and it was suitable for creating jobs. But instead he already had a huge church, but after taking over this mall, he wanted an even bigger facility. Some use the 'Facility flipping" game to raise money... Sadly many of these eloborate facilities, say closed 90% of the time, open for a few hours on Sunday, and maybe a few hours a night or so during the week.... What a waste of the facility... bu much of the contribution are consumed to pay for these overly expanded facility. Rather than use the money to help the community. In some area's there is nearly a church on every block or so, and in this one particular area that has all these churches, this is one of the poorest neighborhoods in the city... ( Now how is that possible is they are teaching positive uplift of people)... Unfortunately, many preach guilt instillation and do so as an aim to make themselves the guilt reliever, and this makes people devoted to bring their money... People have to be careful when they choose a church... and even more so careful in which minister they choose to listen to as a teacher. In some churches they have a pre formatted scrip, where they do what is called the "hoop'... where they are breathing loud after ever word, and can't say three words together without stopping and repeating each word 5 times or more... with all the drama antic's built in. If one is speaking and teaching truth, the truth has its own self inspiring motivation in how the speak gets emotions... one need not pre-plan and set up some grand build up of antics. some even go to school to learn how to "put on the hoop"... over all there are countless styles people adopt in the pulpit... I never read anything about Jesus going through all these rituals, he simply lived and taught right way living, which is respect for others, compassion, good will and developing understanding and wisdom and learning to be and do for the greater good of the universal spirit of Gods Principles. .
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