1ClassyLady 68F
3122 posts
11/8/2013 11:05 pm
Community Property Law


If you have NEVER been married, you can skip my blog or just consider as a reference.

If you are divorced, this blog might help you. We all know "Community Property Law is to punish the hardworking provider and reward half to the lazy spouse" - said by a ER MD who lost 4 million dollars over a divorce to his beautiful nurse ex-wife. Breadwinner has to give away 1/2 to his or her ex-spouse. It doesn't matter the "breadwinner" is a man or woman.

I have a neighbor who is a Taiwanese-American woman 2nd marriage to a Jewish-American man (2nd marriage too). This Jewish guy is 12 years older than my Taiwanese friend. Before their marriage, they already lived together more than 7 years. They have been together more than 15 years. The Jewish guy suggested (before they bought a house and lived together) they went to a law office to sign a paper that is similar to "Pre-Nuptial agreement". Each person can keep his/ her accounts, but they have a join account. Each person needs to put in same amount of money into this join account, then all of their expenses including down-payment, mortgage payment, property tax, insurance, utility bills, food, travel, cleaning lady, gardener, ... all pay from the join account. However, personal clothing, hair cut, ... are paid by individual account.

If they are separated in the future, each person can get 1/2 from the account and the house sold each gets 1/2. If one dies, the survival gets entire account and house. They got married on 12/31/2010. The Jewish guy changed his "Will" and give his wife all his properties instead of his sister. My Taiwanese friend has "Will" but the beneficiary is her only from previous marriage. The Jewish doesn't mind she did this way because he has no .

I saw they are very happy together. They travel the world, eat out all the time, .... He takes care of her and she takes care of him. He is 77 and she is 65. The Jewish guy got "skin cancer" (melanoma) and hypertension, she took him to hospital and MD appointment. Other than that, he is still healthy and driving.

I think "Pre-Nuptial agreement" is fair and square. I am still a giver. However, I have learned my lesson well, so I am only willing to pay up to 50% of expenses, but NOT 100% any more.




Honesty is the best policy.


1ClassyLady 68F
3289 posts
12/1/2013 10:23 pm

He has cashed out his patients' checks so that his checking account didn't show the real income. He has hidden those CASH to himself, NOT contribute to the family expenses. My income had to pay for everything and I was on W-2 so I couldn't lie about my income.

The divorce judge said "he put $2 per month income, we have to take as it is, unless I hire a PI (private investigator) sit outside of his dental clinic and ask every patient how much the dentist charged you?" The private investigator charge $450 per hour and if the patient got scared and his business will have less patients, I need to pay more alimony for him." I only made $56 per hour, I couldn't pay PI for $450 per hour. The community property law is to reward lazy spouse. The loser became a winner. It hurts me badly. I am honest to report every penny I made and did all the housework, but law is on his side. Every time I think about this, I got mad.

I have heard many divorced women said they got house, cars, jewelry, .... that they didn't pay from divorce. I as a woman has to pay a dentist. He always said I don't have money. He has NEVER contributed anything to family. When my daughter was 16 and said "Daddy is a loser, if I go work for McDonald I can make more money than him". I knew at the time (May 2004), I have to divorce him. I swore I won't make same mistake twice. If a man won't contribute same amount of money or work, I rather be a single.



Honesty is the best policy.


1ClassyLady 68F
3289 posts
11/19/2013 9:04 am

I have sympathized a loser NOT love. I didn't want my kids been laughed by their classmates, so I stayed in the marriage for 17 & 1/2 fighting years.



Honesty is the best policy.


1ClassyLady 68F
3289 posts
11/19/2013 12:50 am

It has been 9 & 1/2 years ago. I tried to forget about it. He is very lazy and thinks that woman has to serve man. He is afraid of been sued by patients so he only does easy cases. He is very lazy and a slowpoke, no ambition on career.

I couldn't change him so I divorced him. It was a sad story. Let bygones be bygones. That's why I like my banker friend who is career-oriented and can take care others.

My ex actually is NOT greedy to get my alimony or properties, but the "community property law" and his attorneys taught him to get what he is "entitled" to get. My attorney said "the law can't re-write for you". However, the judge didn't allow him to get alimony from me because he is a California licensed dentist. A pharmacist has supported a dentist for 17 & 1/2 years. It is a long story. I don't want to "badmouth" about him at public media.

I have been burned one time. I want to prevent the mistake. All the hardworking providers have been burned by "community property law". I am a woman but happen to be a breadwinner. I even gave him free "Green card", U.S. citizenship. That is the reason I only date Caucasians or U.S. citizen. I don't want to make same mistake twice.


Honesty is the best policy.


1ClassyLady 68F
3289 posts
11/15/2013 8:12 pm

Of course, I want to fall in love and be loved in return before talk about marriage or pre-nuptial agreement. I know what goes first and 2nd. I am NOT that superficial or shallow. You should know that.



Honesty is the best policy.


1ClassyLady 68F
3289 posts
11/15/2013 7:04 pm

woaini1947:

You don't know my past marriage or my ex. I gave him "Green card" and U.S. citizenship, a dental office, house, car, ..... He was on student visa, $34.85 in his checking account, .... I helped him passed Calif dentist license, to establish a dental office, ..... He hid the CASH money to himself and took away when left on June 01, 2004. He asked alimony $1,926 per month from me because he put his income $2 per month. It was NOT fair. Even the divorce judge said he can't get alimony from me since he is a Calif licensed dentist.

I was a giver, but been hurt so badly, so I want to be "Fair". I don't take advantage from anyone but don't want to be taken advantage either. I don't like scammer or been "catfished". Been there, done that. Because I was too trustworthy. Fool me once, his fault, fool me twice, my fault.

I have 3 very close Caucasian friends, they know my story in detail. They feel the same way.


Honesty is the best policy.


1ClassyLady 68F
3289 posts
11/10/2013 6:49 am

Trusty1,

My attorney told me before that there are 4 states don't have 50/50. They are 60/40 split that female gets 60% and male gets 40%. Is this the case in Florida?

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Honesty is the best policy.


beyondfantasy3 113M
4740 posts
11/9/2013 5:41 am

Anyone getting married without one has to be unaware and not thinking clearly..... at the frequency of divorce, there is no other options except not getting married period... and being careful about common law marriage. Pre-nup is the option, and it must be solid.