1ClassyLady 68F
3126 posts
3/30/2015 9:11 pm
The final 10 minutes on Germanwings flight 4U 9525


A transcript leaked to German media revealed the frenzied final minutes, with the pilot, locked out of the cockpit, shouting "open the damn door!"

Recovery teams have so far only reached the mountainside on foot or by helicopter to continue the search for human remains as well as parts of the aircraft, including the flight data recorder which is still missing.

Marseille prosecutor Brice Robin said an access road was being built to the remote site.

Mr Robin said work on the road, which would give all-terrain vehicles access to the area, could be completed by Monday evening.
Access to the crash site is very difficult for the recovery teams
They can only get to the crash site on foot or with the help of helicopters

The German newspaper Bild published a transcript of the final minutes of the flight as caught on the cockpit voice recorder. It has not been independently verified.

It shows the captain, who has been named in media as Patrick Sondenheimer, telling Lubitz he was not able to go to the toilet before take off, to which the co-pilot replies he can go at any time.

The captain says "you can take over".

Lubitz, 27, then appears to refuse to let the captain back into the cockpit.

The captain can be heard banging on the door and screaming: "For God's sake, open the door!"

The captain tries to break the door down with an axe. Passengers are then heard screaming as the captain begs again to be let in.

Investigators think there is the sound of the plane's wing hitting a mountaintop before final screams.
'Serious breach'

Meanwhile, there have been calls for a full investigation to be completed before any further conclusions are revealed.

The German Airline Pilots Association pointed out that the flight data recorder was still missing and that the reasons that led to the crash could only be determined once all data had been examined.

The European Cockpit Association said the release of voice recorder data was a "serious breach" of globally accepted rules. It said many questions remained unanswered.
Andreas Lubitz was a keen runner who kept himself very fit
Investigator searched the house of Mr Lubitz's parents as well as his flat in Duesseldorf

The suggestion that the co-pilot's action was deliberate led to speculation about his mental health, especially when investigators found anti-depressants at his house along with evidence of treatment by various doctors, including a torn-up sick note for the day he flew the plane.

Reports about problems with his eyesight - possibly a detached retina - first raised in the New York Times, were also reflected in the German papers.

But no full picture has emerged of what initially caused Lubitz to seek medical help and whether reports that he was stressed are linked to a prospect of impaired vision and its potential impact on his ambition of becoming a long-haul pilot for Germany's main carrier Lufthansa.

Lufthansa, which fully owns Germanwings, says his training was once interrupted but only resumed after his suitability was fully re-established.

Lubitz's ex-girlfriend has said he vowed last year: "One day I'm going to do something that will change the whole system, and everyone will know my name and remember."

Family members continue to travel to the site of the crash.

Ippei Yamanaka, co-worker of victim Junichi Sato, told AP: "His wife says she still cannot believe what has happened, saying that it almost feels like her husband is away on his business trip and that it still feels like he is going to return soon."

An official memorial service for those onboard flight 4U9525 from Barcelona to Duesseldorf will be held on 17 April in Germany's most famous church - Cologne Cathedral - in the presence of President Joachim Gauck and Chancellor Angela Merkel.

Meanwhile, the pastor of the Lutheran church in Andreas Lubitz's hometown, Michael Dietrich, told Associated Press the church was standing behind the family. He said there had been no direct contact with the family but he believed they were receiving good help.
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The transcript revealed the final chilling moment of Germanwings flight, The 27 y/o sick co-pilot single handed killed 150 people simultaneously and crashed the plane to French Alps mountain deliberately. Can you image the last 10 minutes how terrified of the passengers felt? They had no way out literally, no intact body can be found.

I have passion for travel and most trips were international (Europe, Canada, China, Taiwan, Japan, Australia, New Zealand) some domestically (New York, Seattle, Hawaii, ...), so I have been on airplanes a lot. We trust the pilots will take us to a destination safely, but in this case the trust is evaporated.

After 9/11/2001, the pilots don't trust passengers and put up unbreakable door and security code to enter cockpit and pilots can lock themselves inside. Since 9/11/2001, USA airlines required always 2 persons in the cockpit. If one pilot or co-pilot need to leave, a flight attendant will enter the cockpit. This time the pilot can't re-enter his cockpit because a crazy co-pilot locked himself inside and murdered all 150 lives. Many European airline companies now changed their policy to have 2 persons in cockpit all the time.






Honesty is the best policy.


1ClassyLady 68F
3289 posts
4/3/2015 1:42 pm

Any airplane accidents are the nightmare to all travelers regardless which airline companies.

The last 10 minutes in this airplane crash must be very scary to all passengers and crews on board. It is so sad to learn the outcome from a suicidal co-pilot who was afraid of losing his job. It was a chaos, fearful, screaming last 10 minute knowing they would died in a airplane crash. It is a tremendous impact news to me. How can an airline company hired such an idiot to fly a commercial airplane?



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1ClassyLady 68F
3289 posts
4/2/2015 11:45 am

The co-pilot of Germanwings Flight 9525 appears to have researched suicide methods and cockpit door security in the days before he crashed the plane into the French Alps, killing everyone aboard, German prosecutors said Thursday.

Search terms found on a tablet computer at co-pilot Andreas Lubitz's apartment in Duesseldorf provided the first evidence that his actions may have been premeditated.

After listening to the cockpit voice recorder, investigators believe Lubitz, 27, locked his captain out of the Airbus A320 cockpit on March 24 and deliberately sent the plane into a French mountain, killing all 150 passengers and crew.

Investigators said Thursday they had reviewed search terms from March 16-23 that were found on the browser memory of Lubitz's computer, which hadn't been erased.

The co-pilot "informed himself about types and ways of going about a suicide," Duesseldorf prosecutors' spokesman Ralf Herrenbrueck said in a statement. "In addition, on at least one day, (Lubitz) concerned himself for several minutes with search terms about cockpit doors and their security precautions."

Prosecutors didn't specify which day that was and said they wouldn't disclose the individual search terms that Lubitz used. They said personal correspondence and search terms on the tablet "support the conclusion that the machine was used by the co-pilot in the relevant period."

The co-pilot "informed himself about types and ways of going about a suicide," Duesseldorf prosecutors' spokesman Ralf Herrenbrueck said in a statement. "In addition, on at least one day, (Lubitz) concerned himself for several minutes with search terms about cockpit doors and their security precautions."

Prosecutors didn't specify which day that was and said they wouldn't disclose the individual search terms that Lubitz used. They said personal correspondence and search terms on the tablet "support the conclusion that the machine was used by the co-pilot in the relevant period."

He said investigators had identified body parts from all 150 people aboard the Germanwings flight after finding and studying 2,854 pieces of remains. But he added it will still take a long time for investigators to match the body parts with DNA samples from families of the victims.

At least 40 cellphones have been found at the crash site in "very, very damaged" condition, Robin said.

No video or audio from the cellphones of those aboard the plane has been released publicly. But a French reporter who says he saw video from one cellphone described the excruciating sound of "screaming and screaming" as the plane flew full-speed into the mountain.

Questions persist about journalist Frederic Helbert's reports in the French magazine Paris-Match and in the German tabloid Bild this week about the video that he says he saw, but Helbert vigorously defended his reports in an interview Thursday with The Associated Press.

Helbert said he viewed the video thanks to an intermediary close to the crash investigation, but does not have a copy of it himself. It was shot from the back of the plane, he said, so "you cannot see their faces, but you can hear them screaming and screaming."

"No one is moving or getting up," he told the AP in Paris. "People understand something terrible is going to happen."

Germanwings, meanwhile, said Thursday it had been unaware that Lubitz had suffered from depression during his pilot training.

Lufthansa, Germanwings' parent company, confirmed Tuesday that it knew six years ago that Lubitz had suffered from an episode of "severe depression" before he finished his flight training. Germanwings hired Lubitz in September 2013.

German prosecutors have said Lubitz's medical records from before he received his pilot's license referred to "suicidal tendencies," but visits to doctors since then showed no record of any suicidal tendencies or aggression against others.

Investigators also have found torn-up sick notes from doctors at Lubitz's home, including one that would have kept him off work on the day of the crash.

Germany also announced the creation of an expert task force to examine what went wrong in the Germanwings crash and consider whether changes are needed regarding cockpit doors, how pilots pass medicals and how companies recognize psychological problems in employees. Any conclusions will be shared with international air safety organizations.

France's air accident investigation agency is already examining cockpit entry and psychological screening procedures after the crash



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1ClassyLady 68F
3289 posts
4/1/2015 10:18 am

From now on, the airline companies should learn a good lesson from this tragedy by choosing the "mentally health" (no depression) and "physical health" (no eye problem) pilots and co-pilots. The passengers lives are all depended on them.



Honesty is the best policy.


1ClassyLady 68F
3289 posts
3/31/2015 5:43 pm

    Quoting  :

The pilot's name is Patrick Sondenheimer who didn't go to toilet before take off. The pilot tried to re-enter cockpit, but that crazy co-pilot didn't allow him. That crazy co-pilot crashed the plane into French Alps with 150 people onboard. This is a tremendous tragedy.

I am a traveler but don't like to be confined in a small seat on plane. So, I watch movies one after another to get off my mind of fear that our lives are depended on pilot and co-pilot and airplane and weather condition or hijackers terrorist act. The seats are so tiny and no where to go. I can't sleep on plane either. The seat is uncomfortable.




Honesty is the best policy.


1ClassyLady 68F
3289 posts
3/31/2015 8:32 am

    Quoting  :

The co-pilot was a foolish coward. His suicide became a mass murder.



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hotelmikel 70M
533 posts
3/31/2015 5:56 am



this is such a grave tragedy,,,
with the leak of such information before the investigation is finished goes to show that who ever reports the news of the day is interested in only being the first to report ,, the good the bad or the ugly side of life,,