1ClassyLady 68F
3126 posts
11/16/2015 12:52 am
My experience with religion


I was born and raised as a Catholic because my mom. Human being are influenced by parents in childhood. Catholic was a minority group of religion 60 years ago in Taiwan as majority were Buddhist/ Taoist (Buddhist/ Taoist are still the majority now in Taiwan). I remember I used to go to church on Sunday Mass and Christmas midnight Mass. During the Summer I also attended Catholic school to learn Bible and recite Rosary and so on.

Then I came to USA in 1980. I was busy to start a new language, new surrounding, new job, new life. I went to church less and less. I was full time job, then full time pharmacy student and part-time job. It was difficult but I was young and busy.

When my ex-husband proposed me and we went to Catholic church asked for wedding ceremony, but Catholic priest said my finance had to join Catholic first in order to get married with a Catholic girl. At that time, he needed to get "Green Card" fast from marriage, he couldn't wait that long. So, we went to Las Vegas to get married to get marriage license fast. Then we went to an Evangelical Christian church that full of Taiwanese 2 months later to have a formal wedding ceremony.

We went to that Evangelical Christian church almost every Sunday. The pastor said that church was rented from Americans to share time and space. We needed to have our own church to worship God. First, he asked us to donate money to purchase land. Then donate money to get construction. Five or six years later, the church was built.

I have had two , when they were very young. One day the pastor's wife told me "Your are very young, you need to save money for their education". She said she had an organization who was going to purchase 260 acre land in Lancaster and many church member already invested in that project. She wanted me to join minimum of $50,000 and I would receive "high interest" monthly. I joined $50,000 and told my mom to join another $50,000. She showed me a "Blue Print" that they were building church, apartment, shopping, ..... I had received 5 month interest payments. Then the head of the group took money and escaped to Asia. The total amount was estimated $136 - 142 millions. It was a "Ponzi scheme". Many church members invested lifetime saving were gone.

We called the pastor's home but no answer. First the pastor's wife said she only got commission, she didn't know that her boss took the money. Then she pretended she was crazy and in hospital. The pastor had been "fired" by church. Then they both disappeared. There was a meeting for all the victims attempt to get some money back, but no use. The money was all gone.

From that on, I started to disbelieve church. I look those real estate agents use Sunday sermon to find buyers and seller or doing their businesses.

As we grow older, we think "outside of box", I realize people use "religion" for their benefits. Most of my life (50 yrs) in religion, so many nature disasters, murders, massacres, ... happened but God didn't show up when we need him (her). Gradually I became an agnostic. Why people have to defense for god, or propaganda for religion? Tell your god to talk to me, until then I am an agnostic.

I know what is "Right", what is "Wrong" in life through years education. When I was a , I needed guidance. But if I don't know Right or Wrong by now (60), I have wasted my time on earth.



Honesty is the best policy.


1ClassyLady 68F
3289 posts
11/18/2015 10:53 am

    Quoting  :

There are no god, devil, heaven or hell. Things is not just black and while. Why there are only heaven and hell after death? Tell your god to talk to me, then I will believe.

Don't you know Bible, Tarah and Koran, .... all written by human?



Honesty is the best policy.


1ClassyLady 68F
3289 posts
11/17/2015 7:43 pm

The evil ISIS chose Sept 11 to attack USA and Friday the 13th to attack France. Those are preemptive attacks. They know our emergency call is 911 and Friday the 13th are ominous to Westerners. So, they chose those days. ISIS is brutal, cruel and ruthless. Their religion have "brain-washed" them. So, I hope bloggers on here are NOT "religion extremist" because it is very dangerous. Don't be a "religion extremist".



Honesty is the best policy.


1ClassyLady 68F
3289 posts
11/17/2015 7:23 pm

To religious people:

Just say there is a God on the "Judgement Day", how god separate people from two groups - one group to Heaven and another group to Hell. If a boy stole an apple and been shoot dead by police. Will this boy goes to Hell because he was hungry? or the police will send to Heaven because he is a Christian?? Why only two places to go? Only two kinds of people?? I will remain on earth when I die. I've NEVER dreamed to go to heaven or hell. I dare to say something that religious people think "Blasphemy". But I said they are hypocrites. The Bible are full of craps. Sometimes, god told people to kill in Bible, then the pastor had to interpret that in the way that believers can believe.

I know people will attack me because I think differently than them. Look ISIS are religion extremists. They believe if they kill Westerners, they will go to heaven and their god will give them 17 virgin girls. You know it is B.S. But they have been told that way and they hijacked 4 of our airplanes flew into our World Trade twin towers and Pentagon and killed 3,000 people on that dreadful day Sept 11, 2001. They killed "Charlie Hebdo" magazine staffs on Jan. 07 this year and Friday the 13th of November and caused 132 people deaths.

Tell me, why your god didn't appear? Why your god didn't save those innocent people? Why god didn't appear on March 11 of 2011 in North of Japan during earthquake and tsunami that caused 19,000 lives. Why do you need to defense for your god. There are natural disasters, car accident, airplane crash, murderers, ..... happened everywhere. Why didn't your god show-up? I want to know.






Honesty is the best policy.


1ClassyLady 68F
3289 posts
11/17/2015 5:27 pm

Just like the ancient people believed "Earth" is in the center and Earth is flat, someday, people will know there is no god. Who is the true god??

Perhaps, not in my lifetime or yours. There is no previous life, future life, god, devil, heaven or hell. We only live one life, from we were born to the day we die. No heaven to go, or suffer in hell.



Honesty is the best policy.


1ClassyLady 68F
3289 posts
11/17/2015 10:20 am

Do you believe the Sun or Earth is in the center? Of course, we know the Sun is in the center. Do you believe Earth is round or flat? Of course, we know earth is round shape.

Science will prevail eventually. Good will prevail bad.



Honesty is the best policy.


1ClassyLady 68F
3289 posts
11/17/2015 8:34 am

I don't believe in Bible, Tarah or Koran, ....those were written by human more than 2020 years ago. I believe in "Science".

Galileo's finger is a good example. Galileo Galilei, was an Italian astronomer, physicist, engineer, philosopher, and mathematician who played a major role in the scientific revolution during the Renaissance. Galileo changed the way we look at our solar system, but in his lifetime people and church couldn't agree with him.

Religion is to divide people. Different religion hate other religion. All religions share defect beliefs, but some are much worse than others. The believers in the ISIS religion believe that unless you believe as they do, you die. It is a common characteristic of many defective belief systems. All the major religions share that concept. Perhaps not death, but a lesser being.

Don't you know there are more and more atheist and agnostic nowadays in USA?





Honesty is the best policy.


beyondfantasy3 113M
4740 posts
11/17/2015 4:10 am

One can believe in God and not be consumed by the Ministers/Preachers and such or any of the leaders.
Find those who teach of God, not how to try to buy your way into Gods Graces, but how to honor God in your daily living.

When the Ministers/Preachers and such or any of the leaders, start trying to sell you something, being on a constant money chase, and trying to claim a power beyond being simply a man, who can teach, its time to let that person go on their way, and you move along your way.

God has not asked man to try to buy his grace, God simply ask man to pray and put no thing, and no being above or in front of God.

What the Bible says, is: Matthew 19:24
And Jesus said to His disciples, "Truly I say to you, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24"Again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

Symbolically speaking, it can easily give understanding that a man cannot buy his way into Gods Grace or the Glory of Heavens


1ClassyLady 68F
3289 posts
11/16/2015 12:03 pm

Why there are so many denominations in Christian? Presbyterianism, Baptist, Evangelical, Protestantism, Lutheranism, Methodism, .......

Science can explain earthquakes/ tsunami, hurricanes, volcano eruptions, ... If god is so mighty, why didn't he appear to save lives? Why god didn't appear, when 19 stupid Muslims hijacked our 4 airplanes and flew into World Trade Center twin towers and Pentagon and killed 3,000 lives?



Honesty is the best policy.