1ClassyLady 68F
3126 posts
12/3/2015 7:20 pm
San Bernardino mass shooting


The U.S. counterterrorism radar prior to the rampage.Authorities investigating the massacre in San Bernardino, Calif., say they have yet to determine a motive for the mass shooting that left 14 dead and 21 others wounded during a company holiday party at the Inland Regional Center on Wednesday. But law enforcement officials appear to be treating the attack as an act of terrorism.

The suspects — 28-year-old Syed Rizwan Farook and his wife, 27-year-old Tashfeen Malik — fired 65 to 75 rounds at the facility and left 1,400 rounds of ammunition and three pipe bombs attached to a remote-control device before fleeing the scene, San Bernardino Police Chief Jarrod Burguan told reporters Thursday morning.

The couple was killed in a massive shootout with police following a high-speed chase through San Bernardino. Police found an additional 1,600 rounds inside their rented SUV and a cache of weapons — including 6,700 rounds of ammunition and 12 more pipe bombs — in the apartment they shared in nearby Redlands.

Officials said that the two were not on t

Accoridng to CNN, Farook, an American citizen, traveled to Saudi Arabia where he met Malik in 2013 during a Muslim pilgrimmage to Mecca.

FBI assistant director David Bowdich said Malik, a native of Pakistan, came to the United States in July 2014 on a “fiancée visa,” eventually marrying Farook and giving birth to a earlier this year.
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The crime site "Inland Regional Centre" is only 45 miles from my house. Too close.





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1ClassyLady 68F
3288 posts
12/4/2015 1:06 pm

I can't comprehend that Pakistan woman who pledged allegiance to ISIS, abandoned her 6 months old baby girl and went ahead to kill 14 people and injury 21 others. That guy was an American citizen went to Saudi Arabia to marry her and applied her to come to USA. Our government allowed them in and out our country freely. Those guns and weapons were legally purchased. Why NRA (gun shop) allowed them to buy so many guns an ammo?





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1ClassyLady 68F
3288 posts
12/4/2015 12:19 pm

I can't comprehend those terrorists' violence shootings. His coworkers gave his baby girl a party before. Why did he come back to shoot them? Why did they abandon their baby and go ahead to kill people at Inland Regional Center where doing services for disable people.

Now as you can see how terrible ISIL violence extended to our land. ISIL "educate" or "brainwashed" little kids to carry guns or train them to fight. What kind of world we are living in? Those terrorists are "sleepers" killer.

His wife was born and raised in Pakistan and pledged allegiance to ISIL prior shooting. What a evil woman !! He was an U.S. citizen went to Saudi Arabia to marry her so that she could come to USA. They were in and out of USA.




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beyondfantasy3 113M
4740 posts
12/4/2015 4:35 am

Today, the media is reviewing if it was an "arranged marriage" as a means to get a woman who was a supporter of terrorism to the US. It talked about how social media sites can and do use women to lure the men to bring them to foreign countries and they spread their motivations.
This is a thought that is not going to go away any time soon. It may become a very big issue when it comes to Muslim/Islamic people going to their homeland trying to bring back women, or women trying to go there and bring back men as husbands.

Any more attacks like this on foreign soil is going to force Western Nation to re-think their whole process on Muslim/Islamic immigration.
something certainly has to be done about the millions fleeing various countries.

The question is, if they allowed their country to fall into such chaos by not reporting the radicals and the men not joining the military of their country and fighting against this madness. Then what is going to be their attitude and disposition if they are brought to other countries? Are they going to report the radicals and sit silent and let them spread through their community?
Are they going to make effort to assimilate or will they simply try to re-create their homeland ideals in foreign countries? We already know the answer, because of how they conduct their lives when they move to European and French countries. They simply convert sections into mini Islamic Models.

The West is a slow learning when it comes to Islamic/Muslim ideology, the people are not going to give up their belief or stop following the ideals, so it is evident if radicalism exist in their lands, it will re-create itself when they build enclaves in other countries. They are not like some other ethnic groups who immigrate. Many groups want to assimilate themselves as Europeans, or Americans or French and etc.. But Muslims/Islamic people don't want to assimilate in the same ways, they want to retain their ideals, customs and manner of conduct and export it with them to other nation.

I have seen people from like Iran, who came after the fall of Shah, they came and assimilated themselves and want to be American people, they did not try and bring the mentality of covering up the women or the men wearing the coverings. They made friends with a variety of other ethnic groups. These are type of people who make the immigration process workable, the others who refuse to assimilate make things challenging.

As with all religious groups there are the zealots who go into extremes, so this is something that has to be monitored carefully when it comes to religious groups, to know which once are potential radicals of extremism. but this mentality of blowing up people and suicide bombers and mass murder, is something that can and will result to a forced exodus of groups if such things become wide spread.

No nation is going to allow Islamic/Muslim groups to turn their country into an areas of daily bombings and mass murder acts that disrupt the general public's ability to have public spaces that are peaceful and one does not have to wonder if someone will blow themselves up in the middle of a shopping expedition.

I personally don't see where I'd have interest to visit any place where people are covered up from head to toe, with only the eyes visible, or the men still dress as if its the ancient times of centuries ago. It's not something I'm use to nor that I have interest to become accustom to.