1ClassyLady 68F
3114 posts
7/25/2017 9:32 am
Can Trump pardon himself in cases of impeachment?


President Trump tweeted that “all agree the U.S. President has the complete power to pardon.” It’s true that the president has the constitutional power to issue pardons, but there are some limits to that power.

Article II, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution says a president cannot pardon “in cases of impeachment. It also limits the power to “offenses against the United States,” which would exclude violations of state laws.

The issue of whether a president could pardon himself remains an unresolved legal issue that is open to debate. Trump’s own attorney, Jay Sekulow, said on ABC’s This Week that the power to pardon oneself has “never been adjudicated” and would likely be decided by the Supreme Court.

The president posted his tweet on July 22 — a day after The Washington Postreported that some of the president’s lawyers are “discussing the president’s authority to grant pardons” for his “aides, family members and even himself” in connection with the federal investigation into whether the Trump campaign cooperated with Russia’s attempts to influence the 2016 presidential election. The Post report on the issue of pardons was based on anonymous sources described as “people familiar with the effort.”



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1ClassyLady 68F
3276 posts
7/28/2017 11:50 am

    Quoting  :

The impeachment to Trump is NOT about "nepotism". It is all about the connection with Russia and Trump's family, "Conspiracy", "Collusion" and possible "Treason". Yes, it is very difficult to impeach a president. Richard Nixon resigned to save his face. Bill Clinton nearly escaped impeachment by one vote less in Senate to save his extramarital affair with Monica Lewinsky.

Trump Jr. 16 emails revealed his meeting with Russian attorney and other 5 Russians. Trump fired James Comey, and intends to fire Jeff Sessions and Robert Mueller that really increased the suspicion of his connection with Russia (our enemy country). During the G-20 recently, Trump had more than one hour private conversation with Russia leader, Vladimir Putin.



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1ClassyLady 68F
3276 posts
7/27/2017 5:54 am

    Quoting snowbound1769:
    Tweet. Tweet. Why obsess and read volumes into a tweet? CNN can spend four to six hours with panel discussion over a 140 word, spur-of-the-moment tweet? Who cares?
    FYI : the President can pardon anyone he wants. Probs not himself, although that would take a Supreme Court decision. And it wouldn't matter - Pence would pardon him anyway in the worst possible scenario imagine. So no need to huff and puff.
I am very fed up with Trump dictatorship, bully attitude, aggression behavior, .... Look his poll rating is dropping and dropping, .... I ain't like Trump. If a leader has became a dictator, someone has to stop him before too late. Trump character has made USA became international laughingstock.



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snowbound1769 61M
55 posts
7/26/2017 6:59 pm

Tweet. Tweet. Why obsess and read volumes into a tweet? CNN can spend four to six hours with panel discussion over a 140 word, spur-of-the-moment tweet? Who cares?
FYI : the President can pardon anyone he wants. Probs not himself, although that would take a Supreme Court decision. And it wouldn't matter - Pence would pardon him anyway in the worst possible scenario imagine. So no need to huff and puff.


tgough 44M
51 posts
7/26/2017 5:01 am

I believe Donald Trump Thinks He Can Get Away With Anything


1ClassyLady 68F
3276 posts
7/25/2017 10:48 am

Even Richard Nixon didn't pardon himself and he resigned due to "Water Gate" scandal.

If Trump wants to know if he has the "complete power" to pardon himself, he should consult with his attorneys PRIVATELY and his attorney can advise Trump PRIVATELY. But NOT this president Trump, he had to tweet it out to let the whole world know that he is worry to be impeached, what other option he can use in case of impeachment???



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1ClassyLady 68F
3276 posts
7/25/2017 9:59 am

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

While all agree the U. S. President has the complete power to pardon, why think of that when only crime so far is LEAKS against us.FAKE NEWS
4:35 AM - 22 Jul 2017

This is Trump's actual tweet on July 22, 2017 at 4:35 AM.
Why did Trump want to know if he has the power to pardon himself? Is he afraid of impeachment coming? Stop tweeting, your addiction will ruin your job as the POTUS.





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1ClassyLady 68F
3276 posts
7/25/2017 9:44 am

 川普總統就職已經半年,行事作風和美國開國兩百多年歷任總統所建立的常規截然不同。雖然現在言談已有幾分國家元首模樣,他大半還是採取使他成為曼哈頓地產大亨和「誰是接班人」電視實境秀裡頭「老闆」的一貫作風。

  川普一系列驚人發言和事件,令人懷疑他是否深刻考量到體制上對總統權力的限制,以及他對法治、民眾及治理國政應負的職責?還是他刻意測試,總統的權力有多大?

  他接受紐約時報專訪,大談後悔選擇塞辛斯出任司法部長,在華府引起波瀾。華盛頓郵報和紐約時報20日晚間又報導,川普的律師團隊正在調查特別檢察官穆勒主持的通俄案調查小組是否有小辮子可抓,一副白宮將和特別檢察官正面對決的態勢。

  川普是刻意測試總統權力極限,或純粹只是不了解總統權力極限,外人不得而知。川普明批塞辛斯、暗諷穆勒,顯然不顧司法部高度不涉政治的傳統。

  塞辛斯以身為川普競選團隊主要成員,恐有利害衝突之虞為理由,迴避通俄案之調查。川普大嘆所選非人,明白顯示他認為塞辛斯對他的效忠應該高於法定職責以及不偏不倚公平執法。

德拉瓦州民主黨籍參議員孔斯(Chris Coons)抨擊川普:「我認為總統搞不清楚司法部的角色。司法部領導官員宣誓捍衛憲法,不是宣誓效忠總統。」

  川普在紐時專訪中也說「聯邦調查局人員實際上要向美國總統直接報告」。這一點也頗有疑問。

  固然總統有權任免聯調局局長,但是聯調局是向司法部報告,而其情報偵防工作則接受全國情報總監督導。他並不像川普身為企業執行長所習慣的階層制度,部屬要向大老闆事事報告。

  川普看待政治和國會山莊的共和黨議員也是同樣心態。共和黨在參議院掌握過半數席次,卻承認無力廢除歐巴馬健保方案,他就大為不爽,暗示反對的共和黨參議員對他不忠。

  川普最近在20國集團峰會餐會場合,把俄國總統普亭拉到一旁、借重俄方譯員密談,完全沒有美方官員陪伴。此舉也凸顯他不循常規,不知和老奸巨滑的普亭如此交手可能危及美國利益。

川普如此行事作風仍然像是主持家族事業的「慣老闆」,期待屬下每個人都效忠他、把權力交付給子女,自認為權力不受限。問題是,華府權力運作有憲法及數代政治鬥爭所建構的習慣所約束,他這套作風行得通嗎?



Honesty is the best policy.