1ClassyLady 66F
3311 posts
5/23/2020 10:47 pm
CCP imposes new security law to tighten grip Hong Kong

China signaled it will impose new national-security laws on Hong Kong, dealing a blow 2 the territory’s autonomy as Beijing seeks to stamp widespread pro-democracy protests that have challenged leader Xi Jinping.

Beijing’s lawmakers will review a resolution to set-*p and improve legal and enforcement mechanisms for national security in Hong Kong, with consideration “new circumstances and needs,” a spokesman for the legislature said at a briefing on May 21st, without elaborating.

The Hang Seng Index dived 5.56%, or 1,349.99 points, 22,930. Real estate firms were the worst " amid concern over potential outflows, with Sino Land Co and Link Reit plunging the most since 20'08.

CCP said "One country, Two systems" but CCP actually will implement "One country, One system" instead. Hong Kongers have many demonstrations and protests on "extradition" for over a year. Hong Kong is a free port, pursuing a free trade policy and do not maintain barriers on trade. No tariff is charged on import or export of goods. Hong Kong is a movie production place that similar U.S. Hollywood. Hong Kong was a British colony and escaped from CCP tyranny. Although Hong Kong is not a country, but they have knowledge of the democracy and freedom. However, Hong Kong's border connected 2 China, CCP always stretched their hands 2 control Hong Kong.

At midnight on June 30/July 1, 19'97, the crown colony of Hong Kong officially reverted 2 Chinese sovereignty, ending one hundred fifty-6 yrs of British rule. After a formal handover ceremony on July 1, the colony became the Hong Kong special administrative region (HKSAR) of the People's Republic of China. At midnight on July 1, 1997, Hong Kong reverts back 2 Chinese rule in a ceremony attended by British Prime Minister Tony Blair, Prince Charles of Wales, Chinese President Jiang Zemin, and U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright. A few thousand Hong Kongers protested the turnover, which was otherwise celebratory and peaceful.

CCP has signed an agreement to be "One Country, Two Systems" for 50 years which should be July 1st, 20'47. Now is 20'20, twenty-7 years earlier.

I have many HongKonger friends in USA, they have escaped BEFORE June 30, 19'97 because they don't trust CCP will keep the promise. It is like I emigrated to USA in 19'80 because my mom didn't trust CCP. CCP has threatened to attack Taiwan after U.S. president Jimmy Carter abandoned Taiwan and established diplomatic relationship with China in late of 19'79. CCP only knows violence and suppression.

CCP has massacred 70 million of Chinese people in Mainland China. Then its Coronavirus pandemic has spread 2 the world and caused 342 thousands global death toll. In USA alone, 97,426 deaths from coronavirus. U.S. government will lower the U.S. flags to half-staff for 3 days for coronavirus victims.

Now CCP wants to stretch their hands to HongKongers "One Country, One System". If HongKonger email with any foreigner, CCP could send that HongKonger to jail and even send to China, if that email contain any message against CCP as a traitor. CCP don't know "Human Rights" and torture people can make them happy. CCP thought k*lled Chinese people in China is not enough, they want to k*ll Hong Kongers. CCP thought to k*ll its own country people, USA and the world can't object to it as it is Chinese internal affairs.

Photo 1: CCP annual political meeting on Thur and Friday, May 21 and 22.

Photo 2: Severe Weather Strikes Beijing Upon Chinese Regime’s Annual Political Meeting. A of men take photos as the goes dark in the mid afternoon amid an approaching thunderstorm in an alley south of Beijing's Tiananmen Square, during the opening ceremony of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference (CPPCC) in Beijing, China on May 21, 2020. The ice hailing like coronavirus.





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1ClassyLady 66F
3159 posts
6/10/2020 1:24 pm

    Quoting beyondfantasy3:
    You evidently misinterperted what I wrote... I did not say you were bias toward black people

    why to you keep repeating as if I did....

    I'll say again:

    I did not say you were bias toward black people
Ever since George Floyd's incident, CCP used this opportunity on every TV channel, internet and newspaper headline "Black's riots, robbery, in many cities" with photos to let the Chinese in Mainland China the situation in USA. CCP don't report America's good news (censor good news), but exaggerated America's bad news. This is the way CCP educate their people.

I am an Asian and anti-communist, so I care about Hong Kong and Taiwan. I have resided in the USA for 40 yrs, so I care about the Democracy USA. I hope CCP will be ruining soon.



Honesty is the best policy.


1ClassyLady 66F
3159 posts
6/8/2020 12:00 am

    Quoting  :

goannaoil:

Chinese lives don't matter, so long Xi can be an Emperor of the world. Dream on!!



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1ClassyLady 66F
3159 posts
6/7/2020 4:28 pm

    Quoting beyondfantasy3:
    You evidently misinterperted what I wrote... I did not say you were bias toward black people

    why to you keep repeating as if I did....

    I'll say again:

    I did not say you were bias toward black people
Please watch the video of Candace Owens on Facebook. Candace said "I DO NOT support George Floyd and I refuse to see him as a martyr." It's better to say from a Black woman for George Floyd incident than any other ethnicity. Some of the word such as "Coon" is better said from a Black to another Black person. There are some language used only in Black community. You know, it is a cultural thing.

Honesty is the best policy.


1ClassyLady 66F
3159 posts
6/6/2020 10:38 am

    Quoting beyondfantasy3:
    You evidently misinterperted what I wrote... I did not say you were bias toward black people

    why to you keep repeating as if I did....

    I'll say again:

    I did not say you were bias toward black people
I have more time on weekends to respond your comments.

In regarding George Floyd case, from the video I can see that the White cop knelt down on his neck for 8 minutes which "might" be the cause of Mr. Floyd's death. Due to the tension between the White cops and Black kids, I would say be cooperate with the cop, don't resist of the arrest. while George Floyd was handcuffed behind his back while lying face and stomach down on the street, police has used too much force. There were 3 out of 4 policemen have been charged and the bail set to be $750K and Officer Chauvin has been charged as 2nd degree murder charge. This unfortunate case has ignited the racial conflicts in many cities. HOWEVER, I must stress that riots, looting, vandalizing, breaking windows, .... are violent acts. Yes, people are angry about police brutality. People can protest, peacefully demonstrate and start the legal proceedings against police, but not showing the anger by destroying the local stores, especially those stores just reopened after the pandemic. I heard that some gangsters are belong to "Antifa". Many cities have curfew enforcement till 5 a.m.

This time the Black and White conflict has something changed. I saw from TV the White cops and military soldiers (national guards) kneed down one leg, put down their batons and facial shield apologized to the crowd for their police colleagues made mistakes. There is some improvement between White cops and Black men.

CNN caught a group of police walked by a 75 y/o White guy who was talking to the police, the two policemen pushed that old man to the ground and blood came out from the old man's back skull. This happened in Buffalo, New York.



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beyondfantasy3 111M
4737 posts
6/4/2020 6:02 pm

You evidently misinterperted what I wrote... I did not say you were bias toward black people

why to you keep repeating as if I did....

I'll say again:

I did not say you were bias toward black people


beyondfantasy3 111M
4737 posts
6/2/2020 7:49 pm

    Quoting 1ClassyLady:
    To beyondfantasy3:

    You have mentioned many times about "Jim Crow Laws", segregation, slavery, police brutality and racial discrimination. I know there are many White police brutality and k*lled black people. The most recent case is George Floyd in Minneapolis. White police knelt on his neck and he plea that he couldn't breath, then passed away on Monday. I want you to know I am a minority too, an Asian woman living in USA for 40 yrs. I am NOT a Caucasian. I have NEVER done any Jim Crow Laws, segregation, slavery, police brutality or a rac*st to any Black. We have a Black president, Obama, for 8 yrs and I voted him twice into White House. Please don't yell to me that I am the cause of "White and Black" conflict. The racial discrimination is a small scale comparing with CCP 70 to 80 MILLION people massacres plus the global coronavirus death toll of over 362,024, in USA alone, we have 105,557 deaths, plus potential HongKonger of 7.47 MILLION and possible Taiwan's 13.7 MILLION lives.

    This blog is about CCP imposes security law "One country, One System" on Hong Kong. Hong Kongers and Taiwanese don't admit as Chinese to identify ourselves as in Democracy NOT CCP communists. CCP's belligerence on its own people, now they think they are 2nd largest economy country, Xi wants to be an Emperor of the world. CCP want to k*ll Hongkongers 7.47 million people first, then weapon b*mb Taiwan 13.7 million people.

    I was born and raised in Taiwan for 24+ yrs and living in USA for 40 yrs. I care about Taiwan and USA including Black people. I have nothing to do with "Jim Crow Laws", segregation, slavery, ... those unfair treatment. As an immigrant, I am a minority smaller than Black. I understand how you feeling, so I voted for Obama into WH. I am patiently read your comments on this blog, please don't put all the anger to me because this topic is about CCP brutality NOT Caucasian vs Black unfair treatments. So, don't derail this blog into racial discrimination. My color of skin is Yellow. Please don't yell at me as I am the cause of police brutality. I have done nothing wrong to Black community.

    If you feel unfair about how Caucasian treat Black, please write another blog about that subject. I have done all I could to vote for Obama. I have more things to worry about CCP's k*lling than racial unfairness. What do you want me to do about police brutality? Tell me, I will do what I can to help Black in USA.


You evidently misinterperted what I wrote... I did not say you were bias, I said, there are people who participate in this site who have bias toward black people Those people who hold those biases know who they are.... you know as well as many other know there are people in this site with biases toward black people.

In America, I remember the years when people had no regard for Asian People, only when Asian Countries became known for Money, did many in America start to show consideration and some level of respect to Asian People.

Since the Pandemic, many bigoted white people have 'attacked Asian people, they even attacked with animosity people who were not Chinese, they attacked them simply because they are not white.

There is nothing you can do about American police brutality, that is something that existed for 400+ yrs in America and white people used the police as a tool, not just against black people.

After World War II... in Oakland, CA... white people moved all the industry to the suburbs, and it left lots of blacks and Asian people without employment, and white people used Federal Money to build houses outside of Oakland, and had clauses in the Deed, that the property could not be sold to people who were not white.

There are Asian people in parts of Los Angeles who are treated very poorly, and some people take unfair advantage of them.


beyondfantasy3 111M
4737 posts
6/2/2020 6:43 pm

I said , you speak about "money often'... that does not mean you don't care about life.... and I have not said you have any bias toward black people.

I've read your life story here many times, I think you earned what ever you have, and your are a responsible person.

As to China, I don't think China to be any "kitten"... the quest for power has made monsters of many leaders and the sad thing is, the power they chase, becomes their eventual downfall. It's happen to many leader over centuries, as to China, any disregard for humanity, on their soil or on the soil of any other nation, will not end well for such a leader.

China has a lot of work to do, to educate people, and as with many leaders who want "total power" they are determined to keep the people as UN-Educated as they can, because they know to keep power, is to keep the masses of the people UN-educated.

I have no issue with the pride you have in your family and the pride you take in being proud of your children, nor the responsibility you take to help your children.

Currently, the status of China, is something that the world of nation will have to deal with, and that is taking place this very day, BECAUSE, Nation now realize they "MUST" RE-Create Industry on their own soil.

Many nations rushed to China for Cheap Labor, and what they did was blind themselves to feeding "un-checked power".... That will change, because 'every nation" now knows, and after this Pandemic, "every nation" understand they must not rely on China, but themselves for production of much of what keeps their people functioning and prospering.

China wants control over Taiwan and Hong Kong, because it want to "dominate and dictate' how money flows from them to Mainland China. It's always about "Money and Power".... and many nations have found "ruins' by the lustful addictive pursuit of such.

China may produce a lot of products, but China is not unaware of how "dependent" they are upon other nations to purchase this stuff.

Currently, if the Chinese GDP falls to 4% or lower, they will not be able to afford to maintain the many things they have built, and their cash reserves they will find is insufficient and can be consumed in a very short time.


1ClassyLady 66F
3159 posts
5/31/2020 11:16 am

To beyonfantacy3:

I have a banker friend since June 20'06 two yrs after I filed divorce in May 20'04. This banker friend has lots of knowledge about finance. He has emailed with me talk about stock market, real estate, politics, religion, current events, ... many subjects except "Romance" (pure platonic friendship only). I guess he has to pay his ex alimony and half of his wealth since his divorce in 19'97. He is a CEO/Chairman of his bank, I think he doesn't want let his employees saw him in the public as he doesn't want to remarry again. I admire his personality, financial knowledge but he let me know he only wants friendship and allows me to date other men. His divorce has daunted him. He is a gentle man, hug me when we meet and hug me when say good-bye and always walked me to my car and saw me drive-off. He attracts me in every way, but I can't have romance with him. He also know that I haven't settled my divorce. He said he understand how I feel about a dependable ex spouse, clinging on me for m*ney (imply that his ex-wife got his alimony and half wealth). He married his high school sweet heart the day after their graduation, they were both 18 yrs old. His ex-wife stopped learning, but he continued to study at American University in DC and worked at a postal office as a sorting mail person (he memorize the ZIP codes in USA) when there was no computer in the world. He got bachelor degree in Finance and master degree in Finance and another master degree in MBA. All 3 degrees in American University in DC. Then he got a job offer as a Loan Officer in California and moved his family to California in 19'72. He love California weather but goes back DC for school reunion. He is very knowledgeable in Finance. I am lucky to have this friend, but I can't have romance with him.

That's why I keep talking about m*ney because I have a banker friend who taught me about finance (investments in real estate and stock market). He is the only person to whom I can trust. I have another friend PhD in Physics who invests in real estate only. The physicist lives in Maui, Hawaii but owns many rental properties in Venice Beach, California. I have never see him in person but lots of email conversation. I know them from other online dating sites not from AFF.



Honesty is the best policy.


1ClassyLady 66F
3159 posts
5/31/2020 1:47 am

To beyondfantasy3:

I am not a "sitting duck", nor a "silent lamb". You have NEVER see me in person, or email each other. You don't know me.

In late November 19'79, Jimmy Carter cut-off Taiwan for m*ney with China. Carter thought the Chinese population could give USA lots of m*ney if they purchase U.S. products. However, Americans underestimate the evil CCP using Americans forgiveness of inhumane activities in the past, the U.S. has raised a sick cat to become a tiger. You don't know the pressure in Taiwan that under CCP's we*pon threatens. Trump realize China export too much to USA and import only a little, it is out of balance of import/ export between two countries. Trump thought increasing "tariffs" on CCP will improve the balance of import/ export. Trump has miscalculate the CCP's lies and signed Trade agreement that they won't fulfill. Then the Covit-19 spread to the world that changed the world and CCP still have energy to suppress Hong Kong for extradition and new national security law. The problem is not on two systems, but ONE COUNTRY. CCP can do anything they want on Hong Kong as internal affairs. I heard not only on HongKongers but also all the foreigners doing business in Hong Kong.
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I have NEVER done anything wrong to African-American. I don't involve in any "White vs Black" conflicts. I am an Asian living in USA, follow the laws. Don't blame on me for White cop shot Black men on the street. My skin color is Yellow. My English is not as good as you are.

I understand how Black feel about the unfairness. But CCP is in much bigger scale of k*lling and Taiwan is next to China.



Honesty is the best policy.


1ClassyLady 66F
3159 posts
5/31/2020 1:09 am

To beyondfantasy3:

My daughter is working as a MD in New York city the most serious virus spreading in the world. She works 12 hrs shift. I was a one full time and one part time job pharmacist for most of my career. How can you say I don't care people's live and only talking about m*ney.

Although my daughter got three scholarships and paid no tuition during her pre-med program (dual bachelor degrees) for 4 yrs, but her post-graduate medical university for 4 yrs, she owes $350 thousand on tuition. Because her 3 scholarships ended by bachelor degrees. I am helping her to pay back her student loan. I quit my pharmacist jobs to take care my mom for near 5 yrs and she has passed 6.5 yrs. No pharmacy will hire me back as time lapsed for 11.5 yrs. Pharmacy rather hire new graduates than a pharmacist who has retired for 11.5 yrs. I sold my mom's properties to help my daughter to pay back her student loan and I can survive without a job.

So, you complained about I talked about m*ney. My family including my late mom (a nurse and midwife), my deceased ex father-in-law (a MD), my ex (a dentist), I am a pharmacist, my daughter is a MD. We all Healthcare personnel, we worked hard for sick patients, my daughter risks her life to work in an environment with coronavirus everywhere, dead corpses on the floor, choose which patient to use the ventilators, not enough PPE (I sent N95 masks, 500 latex gloves, ... to her in March when she said send as much as I can afford).

Do tell me that I only care about m*ney but not people's lives. I have worked all my life as pharmacist, took care my mom for her last 5 yrs before she passed.

As I retired my pharmacist job, I went in to investments on real estate and stock market. Both investments are very risky and volatile, but I am doing fine. I mentioned about my investment to help people the timing and how to do investments. You said I care about only m*ney, can you survive without m*ney? I help my daughter as her career still on "resident physician", she will finish her residency by end of June and move to Texas for a job offer as MD.

Can you live without m*ney? There are so many expenses in life, property tax, insurance premium, meals, car, ... Tell me how to survive without m*ney? Do you eat?



Honesty is the best policy.


1ClassyLady 66F
3159 posts
5/30/2020 11:47 pm

To beyondfantasy3:

You have mentioned many times about "Jim Crow Laws", segregation, slavery, police brutality and racial discrimination. I know there are many White police brutality and k*lled black people. The most recent case is George Floyd in Minneapolis. White police knelt on his neck and he plea that he couldn't breath, then passed away on Monday. I want you to know I am a minority too, an Asian woman living in USA for 40 yrs. I am NOT a Caucasian. I have NEVER done any Jim Crow Laws, segregation, slavery, police brutality or a rac*st to any Black. We have a Black president, Obama, for 8 yrs and I voted him twice into White House. Please don't yell to me that I am the cause of "White and Black" conflict. The racial discrimination is a small scale comparing with CCP 70 to 80 MILLION people massacres plus the global coronavirus death toll of over 362,024, in USA alone, we have 105,557 deaths, plus potential HongKonger of 7.47 MILLION and possible Taiwan's 13.7 MILLION lives.

This blog is about CCP imposes security law "One country, One System" on Hong Kong. Hong Kongers and Taiwanese don't admit as Chinese to identify ourselves as in Democracy NOT CCP communists. CCP's belligerence on its own people, now they think they are 2nd largest economy country, Xi wants to be an Emperor of the world. CCP want to k*ll Hongkongers 7.47 million people first, then weapon b*mb Taiwan 13.7 million people.

I was born and raised in Taiwan for 24+ yrs and living in USA for 40 yrs. I care about Taiwan and USA including Black people. I have nothing to do with "Jim Crow Laws", segregation, slavery, ... those unfair treatment. As an immigrant, I am a minority smaller than Black. I understand how you feeling, so I voted for Obama into WH. I am patiently read your comments on this blog, please don't put all the anger to me because this topic is about CCP brutality NOT Caucasian vs Black unfair treatments. So, don't derail this blog into racial discrimination. My color of skin is Yellow. Please don't yell at me as I am the cause of police brutality. I have done nothing wrong to Black community.

If you feel unfair about how Caucasian treat Black, please write another blog about that subject. I have done all I could to vote for Obama. I have more things to worry about CCP's k*lling than racial unfairness. What do you want me to do about police brutality? Tell me, I will do what I can to help Black in USA.



Honesty is the best policy.


beyondfantasy3 111M
4737 posts
5/27/2020 5:53 am

We as people want to see "Idealism for various nations" and there is nothing so bad about it... other than our "impatience", justifiable or not...

Changing Societies is not a simple thing. America has many issues, we continue to see white people still trying to use the police like they did during segregation against black people, we still have economic and social inequity, that reflects itself in how unequal our public schools are. We see people like Betsy DeVos damaging Public Schools everyday.

In this site, there are people who don't give unbiased interactive exchange with black peopl.
I see people like Wioani, who actually creates commentary, as well as I've shared commentary in extensive expression, but people not only don't engage it, but some likely resent that us as black men, "speak freely" and expressively.

There was a time when the site was far more interactive, but there was still the visibility of bias, and over time many people faded away.

I've used this site since the 1990's and often times, post may get many views but very little commentary to expand and move dialog to explore subject matter.

The World is far from the ideals we may hold and want within our own minds, and people are not of the open interactive comfort to make social sites become what they can be.

I don't know about what happens behind the scenes with this site, but it has not flooded people with advertisement, and it does not promote people putting their personal daily lives on un-managed display. and its format has remained simple to utilize.

Likely many Chinese people don't speak freely maybe due to language concerns or maybe they are not comfortable due to potential censorship.

So... there are many things that exist, where time and more generalized "education will free people by their own embrace of education"...

Times are changing... they will change more.... People are far more in tune to become respectful of others who don't look like them. Others who don't have the same cultural habits they have, and over time... people may become more open to "learn from and with each other"...

Changing how Governments work is a task in EVERY COUNTRY, it may take decades before people can remove "monetary power" from controlling what is suppose to be "Representative Governance". Even in China, they may have one part, but it still has elements of Representatives, and the people will over time change how that functions, because education makes people know their human rights, their civic rights and their civil rights....

We are still a crude world in many ways, even with all the technology and all the information... people are still struggling with learning how to utilize it.


beyondfantasy3 111M
4737 posts
5/26/2020 5:19 am

    Quoting 1ClassyLady:
    Unlike you, I believe in Capitalism, democracy, freedom, education and bipartisan system. You meant that it is Okay for CCP to lie, to k*ll, to organ harvesting to brainwash, to fake medicine, to fake rice, impurities my hypertensive drug, Diovan, it is Okay for Dr. Li Wen-Liang to warn his 8 colleague doctors about the SARS like coronavirus might spread between patients. CCP said Dr. Li was spreading the rumors and created panic. In Taiwan, there is a MD also received an email that forwarded from a doctor in Wuhan, that he got an email warning from Dr. Li. The Taiwanese MD received that email at 4 am on Dec 31, last year and Taiwanese MD sent an email in English to W.H.O. with that forwarded email and emphasize the patient needed to be separated (quarantined). That Taiwanese MD has posted his email to W.H.O. in a public indicated the email date is Dec 31 in the early morning. The Taiwanese MD was in Taiwan and didn't see the 7 patients in Wuhan, so he didn't indicate human to human transmission because he thought W.H.O. is a professional institute and is supposed to know what he meant "separate patients". Trump later read the Taiwanese MD email and realized what CCP treated Dr. Li and how W.H.O. is delaying the news. CCP let 40 thousand Wuhan people to get together and had a big feast on January 8. The YouTube view show the fact, did you see it?

    I know you don't like Trump's White supremacy as you mentioned in the comment. As you may know, there were many of my blogs I posted the same feeling. You don't understand Taiwanese feel about CCP. You have NEVER heard many stories that I heard from those survived professors who had been tortured and they have bones, ribs and knees. They told me the crowd told him to knee down and hit his knees and spiral cord. One of the professors said he was the top 5 passed a national exam, all other 4 died. He was in jail and no family visitor allowed. No letter communication with family, they had been sent to remote rural site and dig the tree root to eat.

    How much you like CCP? Have you ever heard those stories? They cried when talking those stories in Cultural Revolution. It is hard to believe but I have heard. I have properties for rent and I interviewed those people who are interested to rent.

    I have HongKonger friends (males and females) escalated before June 30, 19'97. They had to give up their properties, furniture, .... to come to USA. My mom gave up properties, furniture, in 19'78 to her younger sister in North Hollywood that sister owned a Coffee shop. My mom found a job as nurse-aid and applied me to come to USA. Just 2 months before Jimmy Carter announcement to abandon Taiwan, U.S. had granted me to come. When I arrived in 19'80, I saw lots of South Vietnamese, they told me stories about escape from communist regime in North Vietnam.

    You are lucky to born in USA. However, I know White people have discrimination to Black. I understand your situation. But at least you can speak fluent English, you have freedom to blame Trump. Have you ever had been tortured to broken bones? Did your wife and daughter die under that CCP for a professor husband? Their fates are deserve to be like that? Chinese people are different from CCP, but majority of Chinese have been brainwashed and hard to tell. Only highly educated Chinese know their hardship.


You start your comment making "Unfounded Statements"...
You can't make any knowledgeable comment about what I like or don't like with any sense of truth. So, don't go that direction. I'm not obsessed about money, and Money does not measure who I am as a person. I've written much about American Democracy and the beauty of the Documents that Established This Nation... and the Greatness of the Design, as well as the work that is still to be done to make society meet the values and principles of those Documents Values and Principle Elements of Democracy.

You talk about "money" quite a bit... if that's your thing, then its OK, because you have the freedom of what you prize. I know the necessity of money, but money will be here long after you and I both pass on...

I'm not in China and neither are you.... The difference is, "you nor I can change the country's Governance System'... That's up to the people who live there to do.
As I said in commentary, "when people are becoming more educated, they will not be contained, "Education Always Changes and Reshapes The World.

If you know the stories that you know, then it is certain 10's of millions of Chinese know those stores also.

One thing China nor any other nation can do, is continue to prosper without "education leading the pathways"..... Technology has given people the means to get and have access to information.

It took black people more than 300 yrs to break down the madness of Slavery in America, and 100 more years to break the back of Segregation, and still today, there is the ongoing work to break down bias, bigotry and prejudice and economic inequity. It is today taking people both black and white to push back that madness of Trump and his want to recreate the system of White Nationalism and Wealthy White Male Dominance.... and the people will overcome the madness that Trump and Republican are trying to promote.

Many people from many places still look down at black people, when maybe they should learn from black people, as to what it took and what it takes to break down the acts and conduct that promote repression.

Even in this site, there are many that don't care to respect black people, and still carry undertones of bias, racism and prejudices. I've been writing here for a very long time, and what I have found is some who have this bias and covert prejudice seem themselves to struggle with engaging expanded dialog about anything.

As to China that is a long game program, there is no "flipping anything overnight'... But if one look back over the past 50 yrs, they have had to change much, and time will move where they will have to change much more.
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Fredrick Douglas told of a story to restate a conversation between his master and mistress: “Learning would spoil the best negro in the world. Now, if you teach that negro…how to read, there would be no keeping him. It would forever unfit him to be a slave. He would become unmanageable, and of no value to his master.

Knowledge is dangerous in any form; it was feared to cause a slave to question authority and the entire slave institution. Intelligence enlightens slaves of the evils of slavery and that has a spiraling effect as such information would not be kept to one's self. Knowledge edifies enslaved men and women of their quality of life and to distinguish themselves as human beings rather than property. Slave owners would deprive their slaves of basic education in hopes of a decreased chance of rebellion and in contrast, a slave would need education to be liberated. Acquiring knowledge was far more powerful than any weapon.

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Chinese People WILL GET EDUCATED in Mainland China and the same will apply to them, is that they will no longer be able to be kept in subservient mindsets... and repressed conditions.

China is not the only nation that tries to repress people by trying to keep them from educations... we've seen and continue to see the same thing in Africa and Middle East of factions that try and keep women from becoming educated, as well as many young men in some regions have been repressed from access to education... But as some get educated, they take that education back to the people, and it inspires the people to seek and pursue means to gain education.

Much of the world is still in a crude state of being when it comes to "human rights", and the rights of the Person, to be Individual and be respected as Individual Person.... Even in so called developed nations, there is the madness of Racist Stupidity that promotes bias, bigotry and processes to keep people disenfranchised based on race and gender, country of origin and ethnicity.
So... people should not be blinded by "materialism", to think that any nation has "arrived at some point and level of TRUE RESPECT for Multi-multiculturalism and sincere respect for the Individual as Person.

China is not the only Nation that has atrocities and vile things, how many minorities do you see in any power and political position in Russia, how many black and other ethnicity of people do you see in European Parliament? The same can be asked of many Countries in the European Region. In America it was just 2018 that we got more women in the Congress than ever before in American History.

America still has an issue with brown skin people, and we are connected to Mexico and Central America by Land Mass, but "Ignorance of Bigotry, Racism and Delusions of White Superiority has continued to make strained relations... when this should have vanished decades ago.

When Lyndon B. Johnson, passed the Immigration Act of 1965, it was to change the system to ensure that 80%+ of Immigrants did not just come from white skin European nations, but that people could come from "other nations in equal numbers within the immigration system. White people fought it, and became entrenched in Republicanism and since continue to push fights against immigration of non white people, We see that even more so in the madness that Trump has done with regards to non white people in trying to block and deny them the rights of immigration.

China will meet its challenges, because after this Pandemic, Nations have come to what face what they have put off for too long... and that's the fact they have no choice left but to "rebuild industry on their own land, and employ their own people, and they must produce a higher % of what their people consume. That also means, China has to pay its people for them to become "internal consumer of what Chinese People produces, That means. "economic means and economic opportunity" and with that comes "education"....

So, I say.... "When people are becoming more educated, they will not be contained, "Education Always Changes and Reshapes The World".


beyondfantasy3 111M
4737 posts
5/26/2020 4:41 am

    Quoting 1ClassyLady:
    Unlike you, I believe in Capitalism, democracy, freedom, education and bipartisan system. You meant that it is Okay for CCP to lie, to k*ll, to organ harvesting to brainwash, to fake medicine, to fake rice, impurities my hypertensive drug, Diovan, it is Okay for Dr. Li Wen-Liang to warn his 8 colleague doctors about the SARS like coronavirus might spread between patients. CCP said Dr. Li was spreading the rumors and created panic. In Taiwan, there is a MD also received an email that forwarded from a doctor in Wuhan, that he got an email warning from Dr. Li. The Taiwanese MD received that email at 4 am on Dec 31, last year and Taiwanese MD sent an email in English to W.H.O. with that forwarded email and emphasize the patient needed to be separated (quarantined). That Taiwanese MD has posted his email to W.H.O. in a public indicated the email date is Dec 31 in the early morning. The Taiwanese MD was in Taiwan and didn't see the 7 patients in Wuhan, so he didn't indicate human to human transmission because he thought W.H.O. is a professional institute and is supposed to know what he meant "separate patients". Trump later read the Taiwanese MD email and realized what CCP treated Dr. Li and how W.H.O. is delaying the news. CCP let 40 thousand Wuhan people to get together and had a big feast on January 8. The YouTube view show the fact, did you see it?

    I know you don't like Trump's White supremacy as you mentioned in the comment. As you may know, there were many of my blogs I posted the same feeling. You don't understand Taiwanese feel about CCP. You have NEVER heard many stories that I heard from those survived professors who had been tortured and they have bones, ribs and knees. They told me the crowd told him to knee down and hit his knees and spiral cord. One of the professors said he was the top 5 passed a national exam, all other 4 died. He was in jail and no family visitor allowed. No letter communication with family, they had been sent to remote rural site and dig the tree root to eat.

    How much you like CCP? Have you ever heard those stories? They cried when talking those stories in Cultural Revolution. It is hard to believe but I have heard. I have properties for rent and I interviewed those people who are interested to rent.

    I have HongKonger friends (males and females) escalated before June 30, 19'97. They had to give up their properties, furniture, .... to come to USA. My mom gave up properties, furniture, in 19'78 to her younger sister in North Hollywood that sister owned a Coffee shop. My mom found a job as nurse-aid and applied me to come to USA. Just 2 months before Jimmy Carter announcement to abandon Taiwan, U.S. had granted me to come. When I arrived in 19'80, I saw lots of South Vietnamese, they told me stories about escape from communist regime in North Vietnam.

    You are lucky to born in USA. However, I know White people have discrimination to Black. I understand your situation. But at least you can speak fluent English, you have freedom to blame Trump. Have you ever had been tortured to broken bones? Did your wife and daughter die under that CCP for a professor husband? Their fates are deserve to be like that? Chinese people are different from CCP, but majority of Chinese have been brainwashed and hard to tell. Only highly educated Chinese know their hardship.


My point is simple.... China is going to continue trying do what it wants to do, No Nation just give up "anything of power over anything".. willingly.
That is not to say the people of HKG won't stand their ground to continue their ways of living and governing, and they are not going to roll over and submit and comply to any overt repressions.

HKG People are more educated and have been for a long period, and its hard to contain an educated people... that goes for Mainland China as well, people are becoming more educated and they will find a way to push for their rights to life and liberty.

The Leader of China will not live forever, and the people of HKG won't submit to a Police State Condition.
Now, China may continue the pursuit of doing what it wants to do, but it may well face repercussions from the World of Nations because "Everyone Is Watching.

The things you speak of, is information and knowledge of actions that exist, and more people are aware of such things, and as that comes more full circle and people develop more means to stand, they will...

No Countries society has ever been able to contain and repress people forever. So... China won't be able to do so either. They have no choice but to make humane reforms... and the more people become educated and have economic means, the more the people will "demand it".

One thing that we both know is at the under current is "Money".... China knows it cannot benefit by damaging the Monetary Functions of HKG.


1ClassyLady 66F
3159 posts
5/25/2020 4:19 am

beyondfantasy3:

I want to make sure you are telling me that CCP are bunch of good and nice leaders, from Mao to Xi and no Chinese died during Cultural Revolution, Great Famine, Tienanmen Square Massacre, One Child policy, Falun Gong organ harvesting, no Hong Kong protesters died or forced to suicide, One Country, One System is good for Hong Kong, Coronavirus is NOT from Wuhan city, Taiwan has never been threatened to bomb to flat?? Everything is just fine in China. Those historical events are fake news?? No brainwash? no pee and poo on the streets, no air, water or plastic pollution or sand storm? Have you ever step inside of China?

Their GDP growth is 16% to 6% last Dec of 20'19 and all the sudden end of March of 20'20 the GDP became minus 6.8% (negative). Is this fake news. Do you speak perfect Mandarin Chinese like I do? Can you read Chinese as good as me?? Do you know they will have housing crisis in a foreseeable future?? Do you think "one party" dictatorship, totalitarianism for human kind?? So, you think those 70 million Chinese disappeared is a fake news? Do you think coronavirus started from Wuhan city, China?? or you believe Trump created coronavirus in USA??? Are you an American? You don't like Democracy, bipartisan system??

I understand lots of Chinese are good people, but those are highly educated, been hurt, injured, post-traumatic stress disorder, ... But the majority of Chinese people became 50 cents army, post a message to make 50 cents from CCP (now 70 cents). One of my tenants stole the furniture of my property when moved out. Refused to answer my call when I asked to return. He said USA is big, you don't know where I am now. I said I have his daughter's S.S. #. He drove back 7 hrs to return my stuff (14 hrs round ways).

You meant I lied all those incidents in 70 yrs CCP history?? I am on deplorable Chinese people, do you know? They don't know how to protest their government, dictator. If CCP is a good and kind leader, Taiwan will more than happy to unify with them, but they are NOT. I simply don't know why Mao's pictures on Tienanmen Square and on their currencies (Reminbien). I don't see Trump picture anywhere.

You think Huawei is very good company. Do you know Huawei using Taiwanese Semiconductor chips which is the best in the world. Trump invited TSMC to build factory in Arizona. Do you know TSMC Founder and CEO, Mr. Morris Chang (張忠謀) is graduated from 3 top universities, Harvard, MIT, and Stanford?? He is 88 yrs old and still working, although changed CEO to someone else.

Do you know Taiwan is the top #1 in the world in defending coronavirus? and Taiwan is the nearest country next to China. Only 7 deaths.

Please check the facts by Google. I don't lie. Google will connect a under the ocean cable wire to Taiwan and make Taiwan the best Wi-Fi cable in the world. You can't use Google products (including Gmail, search engine (CCP are afraid of people check Cultural Revolution, Tienanmen Square massacre, ....), YouTube videos, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Line message, ... I thought you are a very smart person and really read my blogs and comments including I said my mom passed away in Sept 20'13. I appreciate you paid attention.

Taiwan is a small country but we are kind and friendly people. We have presidential election since 19'82. We are democracy country. Have you ever gone to Taiwan? Have you ever heard Taiwan? We have endured so much pressure and threaten from CCP for years. Please go to Taiwan and compare yourself.

I went to Hawaii for my birthday in 20'16. While I was waiting for bus, a Chinese couple asked me "Do you speak Chinese?" I answered "Yes". I asked them why they came to Hawaii? They said their son is studying in an university in Hawaii, no time to accompany them, so they shopping together. They also told me they went to Taiwan for a month. They praised Taiwanese are very friendly people, lots of fruit, beautiful scenery. Taiwan is not like China. Taiwan has "human rights", but not in China. This Chinese couple have seen all the turmoils in China, they only complain outside of China. It is a true story. There are good Chinese people, but there are bad Chinese, mostly uneducated who need to brown nose CCP for cling their lives.



Honesty is the best policy.


1ClassyLady 66F
3159 posts
5/25/2020 1:35 am

    Quoting beyondfantasy3:
    No one is going to have a successful suit against China for the Pandemic... because they did what they had to do, just as other nations did, and that is try and determine what it is, then marshal up the products they needed to try and contain it and not let information go crazy until they had measure in place to give their people credible info and do their clean and lock down.

    Every Nations has "information gathering entities" who go and had info, but many countries did what America's Trump did, which was not act on it and in the case of Trump he denied it, called it a hoax and every other kind of denial..

    No country wants to loose a mass of people to a virus, not China, not America, not Any country.

    Its evident you don't like China much at all, but they are a nation of likely a Billion and 1/2 plus people... they can't afford to loose control.

    I don't think people grasp what it takes to maintain relative peace in a Nation of such a vastly high population. A population made up of what was many former clan's that areas still have various historical elements of the clan of their origin. It takes time to bring all those ideologies to commonest in ideals.

    We live here, but within their system they have many components of social order and function that can go off the rails quickly if they move at other nations expected pace.

    America as long as its been a Democracy if still struggling to bring commonality of human respect to be normalized into peaceful unity as simply being Americans.... So... why we expect other nations to do what we are still working on doing. Today, we have the Rabidness of Trump still pushing ancient Confederacy Ideology, and Still thinking in Imperialist Terms, and still thinking in terms of White Nationalism.

    So... how can we expect China to flip a switch and do what we are still working on doing. But no only the US, but many other countries are still trying to make better systems of society.
Unlike you, I believe in Capitalism, democracy, freedom, education and bipartisan system. You meant that it is Okay for CCP to lie, to k*ll, to organ harvesting to brainwash, to fake medicine, to fake rice, impurities my hypertensive drug, Diovan, it is Okay for Dr. Li Wen-Liang to warn his 8 colleague doctors about the SARS like coronavirus might spread between patients. CCP said Dr. Li was spreading the rumors and created panic. In Taiwan, there is a MD also received an email that forwarded from a doctor in Wuhan, that he got an email warning from Dr. Li. The Taiwanese MD received that email at 4 am on Dec 31, last year and Taiwanese MD sent an email in English to W.H.O. with that forwarded email and emphasize the patient needed to be separated (quarantined). That Taiwanese MD has posted his email to W.H.O. in a public indicated the email date is Dec 31 in the early morning. The Taiwanese MD was in Taiwan and didn't see the 7 patients in Wuhan, so he didn't indicate human to human transmission because he thought W.H.O. is a professional institute and is supposed to know what he meant "separate patients". Trump later read the Taiwanese MD email and realized what CCP treated Dr. Li and how W.H.O. is delaying the news. CCP let 40 thousand Wuhan people to get together and had a big feast on January 8. The YouTube view show the fact, did you see it?

I know you don't like Trump's White supremacy as you mentioned in the comment. As you may know, there were many of my blogs I posted the same feeling. You don't understand Taiwanese feel about CCP. You have NEVER heard many stories that I heard from those survived professors who had been tortured and they have bones, ribs and knees. They told me the crowd told him to knee down and hit his knees and spiral cord. One of the professors said he was the top 5 passed a national exam, all other 4 died. He was in jail and no family visitor allowed. No letter communication with family, they had been sent to remote rural site and dig the tree root to eat.

How much you like CCP? Have you ever heard those stories? They cried when talking those stories in Cultural Revolution. It is hard to believe but I have heard. I have properties for rent and I interviewed those people who are interested to rent.

I have HongKonger friends (males and females) escalated before June 30, 19'97. They had to give up their properties, furniture, .... to come to USA. My mom gave up properties, furniture, in 19'78 to her younger sister in North Hollywood that sister owned a Coffee shop. My mom found a job as nurse-aid and applied me to come to USA. Just 2 months before Jimmy Carter announcement to abandon Taiwan, U.S. had granted me to come. When I arrived in 19'80, I saw lots of South Vietnamese, they told me stories about escape from communist regime in North Vietnam.

You are lucky to born in USA. However, I know White people have discrimination to Black. I understand your situation. But at least you can speak fluent English, you have freedom to blame Trump. Have you ever had been tortured to broken bones? Did your wife and daughter die under that CCP for a professor husband? Their fates are deserve to be like that? Chinese people are different from CCP, but majority of Chinese have been brainwashed and hard to tell. Only highly educated Chinese know their hardship.



Honesty is the best policy.


1ClassyLady 66F
3159 posts
5/25/2020 12:24 am

    Quoting beyondfantasy3:
    No matter what they do, they can't back away from the Capitalism of Hong Kong, nor the Capitalism that has become entrenched in Mainland China.

    They however... will not make any soon transistion to any America Style Democracy.... it simply will not not work for them at this time.

    They still have massive volumes of people that need to be "uplifted both educationally and economically. They have a lot of building yet to be done and they can do it more effectively by having central control in Mainland China.

    Nature is Nature, as more of the masses become more educated, nothing can contain the people from promoting Change. The leader of China has a life span, that won't last forever... the people know it, he should know it too.

    The world does not flip and turn like a fish, it's like a giant Ocean Liner, that has a very long Arc before it can make a successful turn.

    We have to realize, the world does not just exist in our life-term, it has existed long before us, and will do so long after us... We barely get to live close to a Century, but Nations lives for Centuries....

    Hong Kong and Taiwan both have progressive socialites, they have many supporters who help and support them in ways that won't just vanish.
    China's biggest concern is to try and keep the money flowing from these locations, but they also know the more Mainland Chinese people become economically functional, the more they will learn from both Hong Kong, Taiwan, S. Korea and the rest of the World...

    It's for certain there are many people in Mainland China who know how to get Internet Access, without utilizing China's system... because Satellite Internet can be accessed by many tech smart people.
CCP has begun the massacre since Cultural Revolution in 19'66 for a decade, k*lled most intelligent professors and land owners. It has estimated 20 to 30 million of people died because one person would connect to 9 families all died. Nobody could resist and became "silent lambs". Mao encouraged young and rebellious students to rob the rich people and intelligent people. It was against "human rights". CCP has changed many leaders but basically the same policy, brainwashed their people, silent them to became ignorant. Chinese people don't understand Democracy, they feel their economy has became 2nd richest country after 70 yrs. So, they believe CCP much done something right. This is how CCP educated them, CCP only release the news that good for CCP, not real news.

I want you to know Xi will sign this new national security law on May 28th. Once this security law become law, CCP can arrest any HongKonger, any foreigners from the world, if the email or conversation involve political opinion against CCP. Liberty Army can come in Hong Kong to arrest any student, if they protest or demonstrate against CCP. There is nothing CCP not dare to do, they like to lick the blood. May 28 is just 2 days away.

I just heard a news that Britain agreed to accept any Hong Kong refugee to Britain. After all, Hong Kong has NEVER protest or against Britain and been a British colony for 156 yrs,. Mao already a top #1 k*ller in the world history, Jiang Jermin ordered to arrested and killed college students on Tienanmen Square massacre and Falung Gong practitioners and sell their organs for highest bid, now Xi pipe dreamed to become world "ruler". We know those bloody news but for the people in Mainland China, they don't know and they don't care as long as CCP don't k*ll them.

CCP should be busy with coronavirus, but they sent their military planes and ships circled Taiwan many times to intimidate Taiwan. I have no clue why CCP like to k*ll so much. Why their end of world day hasn't come?

Honesty is the best policy.


beyondfantasy3 111M
4737 posts
5/24/2020 4:19 pm

    Quoting 1ClassyLady:
    CCP is an incorrigible regime. They made mistake on the top of mistakes. They don't care human lives. They don't know their end of world is soon coming. Their economy GDP will no growth (negative growth = loss), many countries will sue China for compensation over pandemic spreading.


No one is going to have a successful suit against China for the Pandemic... because they did what they had to do, just as other nations did, and that is try and determine what it is, then marshal up the products they needed to try and contain it and not let information go crazy until they had measure in place to give their people credible info and do their clean and lock down.

Every Nations has "information gathering entities" who go and had info, but many countries did what America's Trump did, which was not act on it and in the case of Trump he denied it, called it a hoax and every other kind of denial..

No country wants to loose a mass of people to a virus, not China, not America, not Any country.

Its evident you don't like China much at all, but they are a nation of likely a Billion and 1/2 plus people... they can't afford to loose control.

I don't think people grasp what it takes to maintain relative peace in a Nation of such a vastly high population. A population made up of what was many former clan's that areas still have various historical elements of the clan of their origin. It takes time to bring all those ideologies to commonest in ideals.

We live here, but within their system they have many components of social order and function that can go off the rails quickly if they move at other nations expected pace.

America as long as its been a Democracy if still struggling to bring commonality of human respect to be normalized into peaceful unity as simply being Americans.... So... why we expect other nations to do what we are still working on doing. Today, we have the Rabidness of Trump still pushing ancient Confederacy Ideology, and Still thinking in Imperialist Terms, and still thinking in terms of White Nationalism.

So... how can we expect China to flip a switch and do what we are still working on doing. But no only the US, but many other countries are still trying to make better systems of society.


beyondfantasy3 111M
4737 posts
5/24/2020 4:02 pm

No matter what they do, they can't back away from the Capitalism of Hong Kong, nor the Capitalism that has become entrenched in Mainland China.

They however... will not make any soon transistion to any America Style Democracy.... it simply will not not work for them at this time.

They still have massive volumes of people that need to be "uplifted both educationally and economically. They have a lot of building yet to be done and they can do it more effectively by having central control in Mainland China.

Nature is Nature, as more of the masses become more educated, nothing can contain the people from promoting Change. The leader of China has a life span, that won't last forever... the people know it, he should know it too.

The world does not flip and turn like a fish, it's like a giant Ocean Liner, that has a very long Arc before it can make a successful turn.

We have to realize, the world does not just exist in our life-term, it has existed long before us, and will do so long after us... We barely get to live close to a Century, but Nations lives for Centuries....

Hong Kong and Taiwan both have progressive socialites, they have many supporters who help and support them in ways that won't just vanish.
China's biggest concern is to try and keep the money flowing from these locations, but they also know the more Mainland Chinese people become economically functional, the more they will learn from both Hong Kong, Taiwan, S. Korea and the rest of the World...

It's for certain there are many people in Mainland China who know how to get Internet Access, without utilizing China's system... because Satellite Internet can be accessed by many tech smart people.


1ClassyLady 66F
3159 posts
5/24/2020 2:36 am

CCP is an incorrigible regime. They made mistake on the top of mistakes. They don't care human lives. They don't know their end of world is soon coming. Their economy GDP will no growth (negative growth = loss), many countries will sue China for compensation over pandemic spreading.



Honesty is the best policy.


1ClassyLady 66F
3159 posts
5/24/2020 12:49 am

Hong Kong current population is 7.451 million. CCP is tighten its grip on these 7.451 million people. Many HongKongers will move to Taiwan. Taiwan is HongKongers first choice because the same language (HongKongers speak Cantonese, local dialect).



Honesty is the best policy.


1ClassyLady 66F
3159 posts
5/23/2020 11:31 pm

AFF has deleted the words "to", "hit", "k*ll", .... from my blog article. So, I had to change "to" 2, hope you understand.

During the CCP meetings in Beijing on May 21st and 22nd, the outside of conference the sky turned pitch black from daytime at 3 pm for one and one half hours. There was lighting thundering, ice hailing look like coronavirus shape, turn the day into night during the CCP meeting in Beijing. Many Beijing people recorded the pitch black sky and lighting, thundering, coronavirus like hailing and jumped over the VPN firewall and posted on YouTube for the world to see. The Beijing people said the God is angry about CCP tyranny, so the lighting, thundering, hailing are the warning of dictatorship of CCP to Chinese people. A symbol of End of China. You can Google the video of the weird weather for 1 and 1/2 hour at 3 pm in the afternoon in Beijing on May 21st. After that weather turned back to normal. Check it out and see for yourself.



Honesty is the best policy.