beyondfantasy3 113M
2012 posts
3/29/2011 4:35 am
the real meaning of 'sharing"


it seems to take some people longer to see reality trends, and changes than others.

for a long time, I've written about the equality factor, some women tripped and some became angry, because maybe some did not want to face the changes from thing they had come to rely on for their ego stroking support mechanism, or measuring if someone likes them. maybe now, this trend will make people see each other as individual, more than based on what someone is buying or giving them. It just might bring people to actually come to see each other as persons. And not a means to some material gain.

It just might make the nature of relationships better, and may even lead women, to learn to share in bed from a self inspired and self motivation to be more pro-active about doing so.
when these things come to pass, it may just diminish the money, sex, power game, and people actually 'relate as two people".

Its amazing how teens, who don't have money, but learn to share as two people, often times teens seem to love and share with more sincerity as persons, than many adults are capable of doing.
Many times, 's seem to love each other,with their whole self, far more freely than many adults do.

but now, that it become printed in main media, maybe adults may see it more clearly, and relearn how to actually share, rather than be consumed in the 'bargain system" many adults have grown to engage.

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LONDON (Reuters) – More than half of British women pay for themselves on a first date, even though men still want to pay, according to a survey on Monday.

A poll of 1,924 adults for online bank first direct found that 58 percent of women expect to split the bill on a first date, double the proportion of men (29 percent).

Additionally, 14 percent of women think it should be whoever suggested the date.

Only a quarter of women said that they thought men should pay for a first date, while three percent said they themselves should foot the bill, suggesting that women feel they should not be beholden to men, but that men should also pay their way.

Male respondents on the other hand believed that chivalry isn't dead, with 55 percent expecting to pay the full bill on a first date, and men spending an average of 65 pounds ($104) on a first date compared to women who spend 50 pounds.

Shouldering not just the financial burden but also the organizational responsibility, more than nine in 10 males (94 percent) said they would organize the first date, compared with just 65 percent of women.

Highlighting the financial considerations behind dating, 38 percent of people would use discount vouchers on a first date, a figure slightly higher for men (41 percent) than women (36)

"As we approach the wedding season, the couple on everyone's lips is Kate Middleton and Prince William," first direct Senior Savings Product Manager Richard Brown said in a statement. "It would be fascinating to know if they split the bill or if William paid and pulled out a discount voucher on their first date."

(Reporting by Paul Casciato, editing by Steve Addison)


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Today, women work, just like men work, its about time society begins to awaken to a system that is long past its time to fade away.
If a man pays it should be his choice, not some superimposed duty.

Most men will always want to give women things, because its just something men like doing. but many men don't want it to be a demand nor a demanded expectation placed upon him, he prefer it to be a courtesy he extends, WHICH IS APPRECIATED, not expected.

the women who understand this, will find men are more willing then to share what ever he can with here.

Even is she has more money than he does, he will give and share things with her, if she is simply a person who appreciates rather than expects such things.

Women who judge men based on what he gives, will soon loose that man, and when she looses him, she cannot get him back. because there is always a woman who simply and genuinely appreciates what he gives. and those are the women who equally so give unto me, without reluctance and without expectations attached for him to reciprocate with some gift or favor.

Seems the world may be learning the real meaning of 'sharing"

beyondfantasy3 113M
4740 posts
3/29/2011 5:13 pm

Many men have been set up with such trips, or women who order the most expensive things on the menu, and then nibble on it and leave all of it on the plate.
the more men speak up for himself, and stop falling for the women using that 'Your are not a gentleman crap", the more men will find he will weed out the users, and that leaves more room for him to meet women who have "the integrity" to share. too many women have a sense of 'entitlement" when it comes to spending a mans money, if she thinks he likes her. That is ABUSE, and there are countless women who are abusers, and many use the lure or sex, or the claim that she will use sex as a gambit, to manipulate him to pay.
I say, in such instance, "go find a hooker" who will quote a price up front, and not add in a lot of BS in the mix.

Many men would come out better to find a hooker, than to put up with what some men put up with in the name of a "date".

Many women treat a date as if she is the controller of it, and treat many men as if he should feel grateful to be used, just because she showed up.

A lot of the Yuppies and the wanna be impresser, gets used by women like clockwork, and many of them never know the difference. some women only call certain guys, whom they know will foot the bill for certain things, and when they want something different they check their list to see what kind of stuff the next guy will pay for.

the quickest way some men can find out what level of realism a woman is, all he has to do is be able to say "NO", when he feels like saying NO. It's Guaranteed, she will see out to find some reason to break the so called friendship.

Unfortunate as it is, some women will always live like they are a commodity and try to be covert in the methods of doing so. and if you bust them by pointing it out, they will deny it, and immediately try and make you feel guilty about something.

Men, simply have to think and to respect himself, or he will get played. Many women sadly think its their right to play and use a man if they can.

It's a trip but a lot of women who earn high salary, are not the nicest people one would like to meet. some think they are owed something, and that should tell men to pay attention.

If a man find a woman who has money who is a genuine person who knows how to share, he may have found someone who is different than the masses, then he only has to share time, and pay attention to her demands, and if she is not issuing any, he may be able to have a reasonable and communicable as well as a sharing relationship.


beyondfantasy3 113M
4740 posts
3/29/2011 5:14 pm

    Quoting  :

I'd say you did the right thing. both by not paying for it, and by not going any place else with her, and paying only for your portion of the dinner.