beyondfantasy3 113M
2013 posts
4/21/2012 8:29 am
THE WORKS ...of learning to live and share, "are continual and many".


How interesting it is for a site that many claim they are looking for "love', yet. love is the simplest thing in the lives of human beings. often defeated by the minds of mankind..

If loves does not begin within ones own self. Then there is little hope that love will be found to truly connect outside of ones self Fantasy may prevail, and illusions may delude one, but if it is love that anyone seeks, it must be embraced within self.

Many people claim they cannot find love, (it may well be because) they surround and constrict themselves with UN-real criteria and fantasy illusion of prerequisites born of media hype and celebrity delusions.
Many people are looking for the Photoshopped images in real life, when trust and fact is the Photoshopped imagery is designed to make people unsatisfied with themselves, so someone can see another product or make people keep yearning for what is not practical nor realism.

All the while, the time that loving can be shared, passes and people become jaded by delusion and lost in fiction..

External delusion, illusions of some exotic entertaining life and conjured delusions about what image presents... makes many people not even see each other as individuals nor as the real life person they are. So people not only mis-use others, but they neglect and abuse others kindness, and insult the considerations given to them by others. ultimately denying themselves the blossoming of loving feeling within even themselves.

Not much truth is allowed to exist, as people go on dates and judge each other by some media created fiction and the selfish want to be entertained as if someone must be a clown performer for them. some put on fake giddiness and suddenly turn into a dictatorial maniac.

Too many today, go berserk if two or three people compliment them, and many become self absorbed abusers, the minute they think someone likes them.

But, what probably becomes the worst of disaster which prevents many for finding the will and the motivation and taking the actions to connect and relate with others in the spectrum of sharing a loving nature communication and relation is ' the fantasy of 'shopping for better"... when better is often based on some external illusion or material obsessions.

No matter how much we elate ourselves within our own selfish adoration's, truth and fact is there is no perfect anything, and that includes ourselves. Pretentious and misguided fiction of judging others as unworthy because we say we don't like this or that, as if everyone is suppose to like everything we like is a chosen sense of 'bigotry', that often leads us to understand less, and therefore close ourselves off to learning how to respect, therefore we close ourselves from the potential to learn to appreciate.

If you are flawless, then you probably have a set of wings attached to your back and a natural halo around your head.. and its quite certain if you do a re-check in the mirror with your eyes open, you will find neither do you have wings, nor a halo... it might being you down to reality, that you too are not without flaws in personality, character and the functioning of your life.. It just might diminish yourself consumed vanity... therefore, opening you up to the potential to possible learn to share loving exchanges with others.
Now if ignorance prevails, then you may then have your own answer as to why loneliness continues to be your best friend and your life remains without someone to share your life and times with.

So in simplicity, it may be easier to learn to smile from within . It might even become a part of your being to learn to laugh at yourself and the folly that is equally so a part of your living... then you might just find that sharing the loving nature of communication with others is far easier to enjoin and enjoy.

Sadly, many can't share the act of sx, without attaching a mindset of selfish delusions, rather than paying attention to their won lack of self motivation to give and share, and getting off the high of seeking vain self absorption to the point, they make themselves unable to relax and accept the acts and actions of appreciations being shared. Some are too busy judging and rating the other, until they fail to realize they are doing less giving and sharing themselves. Still others think, just getting undressed is suppose to make another lose their mind and become like a smitten fool.

It might just be that when many wake up and open their eyes another. by their delusion of seeking some concept of a fantasy as if they themselves think they are some God to be worshiped and of control of another.

Sadly, some are so in love with themselves, until their vanity has made them consumed with self delusion by the look of their face or the shape of their ass.. and the resulting truths is, they have become in some ways a fool unto themselves, and deny the nature of sharing what is loving communications.. Because, they have become self deluded in their own vanity, until they are waiting to be worshiped.

THE WORKS... of learning to live and share, are continual and many.....

beyondfantasy3 113M
4740 posts
4/23/2012 5:27 pm

You have listed things many would like to deny but truth is what it is. many many women are good at one thing, and that is: walking out when they don't get their way !! because these kind of woman are selfish, they think they can manipulate the world with the lure of sex, and they have the delusion that if a man is friendly that it is because she is playing 'temp and tease with sex', rather than for her to realize; the man is many times friendly because he wants to be friendly. but what they must also realize is men don't just take sex form any woman, there has to be something about the woman which he truly likes that makes him want to engage her. if she is malicious all she can do is make him not desire her. Once he does not desire her, she does not matter in his life he may treat her with congenial regard, but she can rarely have this mans loving regard, because he will likely not trust her again.

I've had women whom i was friends with, tell me all kind of lines about how virtuous they were and how devoted to their relationships, all the while I knew they were banging someone other than her husband or boyfriend. suddenly when they come to the realization that I already knew about their activities, they don't know what to do, because they have some self delusion that they were duping me, because they considered themselves slick and sly. All they result to do is 'insult the integrity a man tries to share with them as person to person'.

many women have a severe problem.. they try to use sex for everything, they want to convince themselves, that every man wants them, and when they find out that it is not the sex that he is trying to be friends with, it is her.. They then don't know what to do, because they realize they have lost their self assumed 'bargaining position'.. the women who know how to be friends with a man, eventually learn the depth of a mans compassion as he is then there for her as a friend.

think about it.. rarely does a man find a female friend, unless she thinks she can get something, or that she can manipulate him, or that he is good to keep as a reserve when she needs a favor. such women are 'abuser of human integrity', and many of such revel and build their ego behind the self delusion of thinking themselves slick and consider themselves master manipulators.

We see many of such, burnt out, worn out and jaded about life.. then they get vicious, bitter and every other anti-social thing they can find to become.

It's really sad, because too many women have a driven mentality to want to use men as if she can only interact with men if she can find something to use him for.

Most have no idea what it means to share, to many the word share only means they think someone should give them something or do stuff for them.

I like the women who can and are friends because they enjoy the company of men and want to be a friendly person who is a woman. there are some women who are just good people, they can be found in this site and in life in general.. But a man would be made into a fool if he thinks every women is genuine and sincere in her interactions.

Sadly in this site and many other sites, the reason many women can't connect is they are holding 'reserve" with hope of 'trading up'.. some women look at men the same way the look at shoes. they want to play everyone they can.. and then put him in a box and claim he is her's to take out and wear when she wants to, and when she does not want to wear him, she shoves him back in the box and bury him in the closet. If anything, I'd feel bad for the men who allow themselves to be played in such ways.

you were wise to call her on her crap, and read right through her ultimatum and give them right back to her. I do not deal with women issuing any ultimatums based on her selfish aims. any woman threatening to leave, the only thing I can do for her is, get the door open so she can follow through on her aims to do so.

Men generally don't have a problem apologizing if he did something he feels is not quite right.. but women, they have no sense of apology. then if you accept them back, they think its because they were slick, rather than to think that the man is understanding and compassionate to give it another try. some women even get back with men, only to take out her wrath because she did not get what she wanted the first time.

It is a reason why the Bible speak so much about the wilds of woman. It is a reason why the story of Adam and Eve demonstrates the manipulative acts of woman to mislead man.

this is more so the reason the to the sayings, He who finds a wife finds a good thing. But every man who marries does not find a wife, and every woman does not make a wife.


beyondfantasy3 113M
4740 posts
4/28/2012 7:13 am

What both of you seem to be implying is as the original post stated:

"No matter how much we elate ourselves within our own selfish adoration's, truth and fact is there is no perfect anything, and that includes ourselves. Pretentious and misguided fiction of judging others as unworthy because we say we don't like this or that, as if everyone is suppose to like everything we like is a chosen sense of 'bigotry', that often leads us to understand less, and therefore close ourselves off to learning how to respect, therefore we close ourselves from the potential to learn to appreciate.

If you are flawless, then you probably have a set of wings attached to your back and a natural halo around your head.. and its quite certain if you do a re-check in the mirror with your eyes open, you will find neither do you have wings, nor a halo... it might being you down to reality, that you too are not without flaws in personality, character and the functioning of your life.. It just might diminish yourself consumed vanity... therefore, opening you up to the potential to possible learn to share loving exchanges with others.
Now if ignorance prevails, then you may then have your own answer as to why loneliness continues to be your best friend and your life remains without someone to share your life and times with."


Unfortunately:

External delusion, illusions of some exotic entertaining life and conjured delusions about what image presents... makes many people not even see each other as individuals nor as the real life person they are. So people not only mis-use others, but they neglect and abuse others kindness, and insult the considerations given to them by others. ultimately denying themselves the blossoming of loving feeling within even themselves.

Sadly, what many men keep saying is simple:

think about it.. rarely does a man find a female friend, unless she thinks she can get something, or that she can manipulate him, or that he is good to keep as a reserve when she needs a favor. such women are 'abuser of human integrity', and many of such revel and build their ego behind the self delusion of thinking themselves slick and consider themselves master manipulators.

We see many of such, burnt out, worn out and jaded about life.. then they get vicious, bitter and every other anti-social thing they can find to become.

It's really sad, because too many women have a driven mentality to want to use men as if she can only interact with men if she can find something to use him for.

Most have no idea what it means to share, to many the word share only means they think someone should give them something or do stuff for them.


this unfortunately becomes, the point many women will and do destroy the relationship...


beyondfantasy3 113M
4740 posts
4/29/2012 8:31 am

very old people still pursue sex... They have some who are as busy as they can be...


beyondfantasy3 113M
4740 posts
5/18/2012 5:10 pm

    Quoting Tilde34:
    Many people nowadays equate love with excitement. In our world of consumption, the consumer, "me-first" society, we want love to be about ourselves, our satisfaction, our happiness. Does anyone know what "love" is? It isn't about infatuation which is driven by hormones. It wears off. Basically, love is defined by the length you would go for OTHERS. This also means self-sacrifice. Love is un-conditional. The only one that I know is God's love for us. It is un-conditional and forgiving. I haven't seen it between a man and a woman. I think for us, human beings, to try to give un-conditional love, we have to understand that we ourselves are flawed. Our potential partner will be flawed. We screw up royally in our lives. Let it go. We will try to not say things to hurt, try to be honest, try to keep our promise. In reality, sometimes we fail - because we are frail beings. If we can let things go and forgive, you provide a sense of acceptance and comfort with someone. You are happy with each other and have the desire for each other. When you are happy with each other, the relationship is long lasting. S3xual attraction doesn't define love. Physical fulfillment is essential in a lasting relationship. It isn't the only thing in the relationship. When you feel comfortable with someone, you feel safe, no fear. A sense of acceptance then you have a sense of openness. There is no age limit to a person's desire for the other.
you are very aware and communicate it very well. it's sad that so many people won't grasp what you've written and some won't learn from it, but the wise who venture here may well learn something about themselves if they simply read and engage discussions.

good comment.