beyondfantasy3 113M
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9/7/2013 12:40 pm
Change to the concept of "Educational Universities"


Universities are promoted for many things, unfortunate as it is, the top expensive Universities are often promoted for other factors, such as the status of their graduates in Industry. maybe this is because of "connections to Alumni and the system of wealth controllers, family names and including other variables of Fraternities and Sorority connections with wealth lineage to the University itself, some for their sports programs, some for their party atmosphere of social interactive functioning, some promoted because of their (elitist) money based claim of sophistication ( in some aspects snobbery!), some are promoted for their student cultural programs, some for their technical expertise, and still others for their claim of business expertise.
Many are promoted for their research and developmental advances in and of performance. these become leaders, for the students who are involved in these programs.

Likewise so, these often are funded by corporate entities, thus becomes a connection of corporation and university, these avenue are fruitful to the research students, and in some cases the student population whom directly benefit from the research gains, who can become support system operators, some advance in learning the systems adaptions, these are the group who can go on to become decision makers within some of these areas. this however is still promoted and supported by endorsements, except in the cases where individuals undertake their own resource applications and become renown for their achievements.

These areas of University connection is of good productivity in what their graduates in these aspects achieve through their various connectivity avenues. But some individuals who attend, result to do so by hands on application to real world function..

Depending on Degree and University Connectivity Only, They may not be skilled in the humane aspects of what it is to lead people, but they are skilled in understanding the systems attributes...and generalized potentials.

Many of these people may become the unknowns behind the Industrial and economic as well as the technical or scientific systems, whom function in support roles. They may confer and consult with the leadership to provide collaborative and even in some cases consultation input. some may rise to become leaders and decision makers through their work and knowledge, but they did not ride the degree to the top, they worked in support system operations and achieved advancements based on contributory performance, and within the process they learn what is a human working environment. .

Sadly, There are always those whom push an 'entitlement mentality'.. where some cases some of its graduates have never worked and never understood the cost of milk for a baby, food for a family or the realities of what is involved in the industrial work environments. Some ride on family money to get through, with a trust fund account for their extravagance as well as a family connection for their placement in job positions when they get their paid for certificate of accessibility to positions of entitlement mentality enhancement.

I was offered the position to run a guys business operation during a sale to a larger company, he had a guarantee in his contract that he could maintain his business as is, for the first 5 yrs of the sale agreement. He told me, that he previously hired university graduates to do the work, but they came with an entitlement mentality and a status illusions about themselves, that was no conducive to his business model. He said some came with thoughts they'd instantly be able to buy the big home and expensive cars and have a power position, but he said he found out they did not really know anything about what it takes to work with people and the challenges both the business and the people whom work there deal with on a daily basis. he said not only were they making the workforce unstable, that when he got rid of them, he found piles of unfinished work, some that had been untouched and the focus of what mattered was lacking. Unfortunately I was not available to take the offer, because at the time I'd undertaken a position to a program that helped a lot of people during the crisis of the economic challenges facing the communities. good or bad choice on my part, who knows.... I did successfully complete the project and did so with record production.

China had an article a couple of years ago, which said Industry had acknowledge that Grade Point Average and Degree did not always translate into productivity or better productivity.

More and more elements are learning they cannot place people in decision making positions just because they have a degree in some varied field, ( often unrelated to anything concerning the business), Some have learned they cannot place people in positions because of their (elitist) University affiliation or their claim of title.
Sadly, Many people boast claims of various levels of degree, whom have never held a job, and some have never held a job that involved them doing anything which would prepare them for decision making or leadership positions. many with degree's don't want to start at the bottom and learn the business and work their way up, they come with a sense of entitlement based on degree, that they should be placed immediately in a decision making position.

Now imagine a Doctor coming out of school and want to become the Chief Surgeon.. or the head surgeon in the Emergency Room....
" would you be willing to go under their knife" ? now many of these people have 8-10-12 years of schooling, but no one is going to put them immediately in charge of the life of human beings, just because they graduated.

Now, in general a person spend 4 yrs to get a Bachelor's degree, how many of those classes involve things that have absolutely nothing to do with certain career functions. ? but those classes sure make a lot of mandatory expended money for the University. They do nothing however to prepare the student or a particular field of their choices actual job functions.

Some come out and they are more than thrilled to 'quote some historical poets", or tell people who wee the 18th and 19th century musicians, or what culture club they were participating in, and some will even tell you how many introductory 101 classes they took, as if they have become a scholar based on the introductory course to a specific field.

I know people who work in various accounting fields, who are very limited in the functional usages of spread sheets capabilities. They can manually figure out how to arrive at their figures, but is that the most efficient method in a technological system based society.

Again, it comes down to learning how to learn, and being pro-active to use that ability to develop skills with the technological advanced tools that drive industry, business and systems.

Eventually, people will awaken to the methodology and force University to regain the ability to be what it once was. It once focused on training people to be functional in specific fields as a basis of degree.
Now, all a person has to do is gain a specified number of course credits and they are awarded a degree. We still have the matter of GPA, where there is a broad mixture of "D" &"C" passing marks, but the degree is being promoted as if these were "A" grade mark students with high proficient level... and that simply is not the case.

Even still, education is always worthwhile... it just does not immediately command one to a leadership and decision making position. some are better being placed in system support roles.

It may well be that one should not equate a degree with a fancy house and expensive automobiles and high fashion clothing.. and concern themselves with providing a service to the public in the field they claimed to have a motivation and interest to perform. Sadly man want to live in expensive communities, which is occupied with people who spent many years working to build and live in these communities, yet some expect a degree to give them instance residency in these communities.

Now more than ever, students should figure out what they want to be before they enroll. and then CAREFULLY select their course material to give them the best of information and focus in that field objective. Students should CHALLENGE AND EVEN FILE SUIT AGAINST UNIVERSITIES who give a list of mandatory classes that have nothing to do with the career objectives the student aims for. OJT work training and no less than 2 yrs of actual work in the industry or field, should be mandatory before anyone is given or claimed to have earned a Master's degree.

It will be "young" people, who restore integrity to the nature of University, and it is people who will change these organization from being rip off programs. there are the elitist professors who never set foot in classrooms but command a high salary to be on staff with subordinates who actually teach the class. Maybe this process should be reviewed and either changed or simply eliminated. Either you teach or go home and let someone have the job who actually will do the actual teaching.
The balance of degree claim, such as: a bachelors degree should equal the same regardless of the institution who's name is on it. a overly expense schools Bachelors Degree should not be rated, or awarded any more significance than one from a City of State College.
Banks should be banned from making Student Loans. !!!!! all student loans are back by the government, and the rate should never be more than 2.5% and there should be a loan cap limit placed on every program, or a standard yearly feel per student @ 12 units, regardless what they are. The 4 year program should be changed to 3 yrs, with direct focus the first two years on the field of choice, and the last year, involved actually real world work, by volunteering or pay wages in that field no less than 4-6 hrs a day. This is to be paid ut of profit gains from sports programs and/or from program funds that are received vial grants or other contributory support avenues.

Eventually, the young people will force the change, because they become tired of the current system.
Everyone should e allowed to go to University, without some scam of a test being the control point of decision t admit students.

More power to the Young People of Today and Tomorrow who will be the force that changes the University and Degree concepts as well as raise a reasonable challenge to the locks some high cost big dollar driven universities have on various employment positions. It's a big challenge in some aspects, because of the historical wealth of the alumni.

beyondfantasy3 113M
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9/7/2013 4:44 pm

If you want to be the Chief Executive Officer of a major company, where you went to school matters, according to a new list from Times Higher Education.

THE recently compiled a list of the universities around the world that produce the most CEOs, based on the alma maters of Fortune Global 500 CEOs.

From the list and speaking with both academics and businesspeople, THE found that — regardless of your major — "the presence of the right institution on your CV reassures potential employers about your likely aptitude for the job."

According to THE's methodology, university rankings were determined using "the total number of degrees awarded to CEOs; the total number of CEO alumni; [and] the total revenue of the alumni CEOs’ companies."

We've included all of this information for the top American schools, as well as the U.S. News and World Report's rankings of undergraduate and graduate business programs. We have also included a few CEO alumni from every school on our list.

Harvard topped THE's list — both for international and American universities. The school has 25 alumni CEOs currently, more than double the next American university on the list.

#12 New York University

Number of Degrees Awarded: 4
Number of CEOs: 4
Total Revenue of CEOs: $327.1 Billion
U.S. News Rankings: #5 Undergraduate, #10 MBA
Notable Alumni: Robert Greifeld (NASDAQ), Chris Policinski (Land O'Lakes), Alan Weinberger (ASCII Group)

#11 University of Southern California

Number of Degrees Awarded: 4
Number of CEOs: 4
Total Revenue of CEOs: $704 Billion
U.S. News Rankings: #11 Undergraduate, #26 MBA
Notable alumni: Dan Bane (Trader Joe's), Cho Yangho (Korean Airlines), Kevin Tsujihara (Warner Bros.)

#10 Southern Methodist University

Number of Degrees Awarded: 5
Number of CEOs: 4
Total Revenue of CEOs: $575.3 Billion
U.S. News Rankings: #40 Undergraduate, #52 MBA
Notable alumni: Aart J. de Geus (Synopsys), C. David Cush (Virgin America), Edward B. Rust Jr. (State Farm Insurance)

#9 Yale University

Number of Degrees Awarded: 6
Number of CEOs: 6
Total Revenue of CEOs: $330.5 Billion
U.S. News Rankings: N/A Undergraduate, #13 MBA
Notable alumni: Ellis Jones (Wasserstein Perella & Co.), James McNerney (Boeing Company), Stephen A. Schwarzman (Blackstone Group)

#8 Columbia University

Number of Degrees Awarded: 6
Number of CEOs: 6
Total Revenue of CEOs: $545.7 Billion
U.S. News Rankings: N/A Undergraduate, #8 MBA
Notable alumni: Ursula Burns (Xerox), Michael Gould (Bloomingdale's), César Alierta (Telefónica)

#7 Northwestern University

Number of Degrees Awarded: 7
Number of CEOs: 6
Total Revenue of CEOs: $323.7 Billion
U.S. News Rankings: N/A Undergraduate, #4 MBA
Notable alumni: Cesare Mainardi (Booz & Company), Thomas J. Wilson (Allstate Corporation), Andrew S. Duff (Piper Jaffray)

#6 University of Chicago

Number of Degrees Awarded: 7
Number of CEOs: 6
Total Revenue of CEOs: $489.9 Billion
U.S. News Rankings: N/A Undergraduate, #6 MBA
Notable alumni: Brady Dougan (Crédit Suisse Group), J. Patrick Doyle (Domino's Pizza), Mark Hoplamazian (Hyatt Hotels Corporation)

#5 Cornell University

Number of Degrees Awarded: 8
Number of CEOs: 6
Total Revenue of CEOs: $375.3 Billion
U.S. News Rankings: #10 Undergraduate, #16 MBA
Notable alumni: Irene Rosenfeld (Mondelēz International), Lowell McAdam (Verizon Communications), Herbert Fisk Johnson III (S.C. Johnson & Son)

#4 Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Number of Degrees Awarded: 9
Number of CEOs: 7
Total Revenue of CEOs: $428.5 Billion
U.S. News Rankings: #2 Undergraduate, #4 MBA
Notable alumni: Charles Koch (Koch Industries), Drew Houston (Dropbox), Alan Mulally (Ford Motor Company)

#3 University of Pennsylvania

Number of Degrees Awarded: 9
Number of CEOs: 8
Total Revenue of CEOs: $405.4 Billion
U.S. News Rankings: #1 Undergraduate, #3 MBA
Notable alumni: Jeff Weiner (LinkedIn), Harold McGraw III (McGraw Hill Financial), Steve Wynn (Wynn Resorts)

#2 Stanford University

Number of Degrees Awarded: 13
Number of CEOs: 11
Total Revenue of CEOs: $492.5 Billion
U.S. News Rankings: N/A Undergraduate, #1 MBA
Notable alumni: Reed Hastings (Netflix), Rodney O'Neal (Delphi Automotive), Richard Fairbank (Capital One)

#1 Harvard University

Number of Degrees Awarded: 31
Number of CEOs: 25
Total Revenue of CEOs: $1,548.3 Billion
U.S. News Rankings: N/A Undergraduate, #1 MBA
Notable alumni: Steve Ballmer (Microsoft), Lloyd Blankfein (Goldman Sachs), Jamie Dimon (JPMorgan Chase)

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"the presence of the right institution on your CV reassures potential employers about your likely aptitude for the job."

This is the elements many Young People may began to challenges. because they too paid for their education. They want fair options of opportunity as well as those who paid for their education at these elite expense Universities.

It may never achieve 100% equality in these aspects, but it will be a driving challenges by the young people to create a more level paying field. They are certain to meet with big oppositions, but any gains will be good for the over-all of respectability for those whom perform well in their learning, regardless of what the University Status is, It will the pursuit to respect the individual and the individual achievements.

It may take a great global crash to some level, before this takes roots, but as with all things, in time the challenges do make some level of headway to force change.