beyondfantasy3 111M
2363 posts
7/9/2014 5:07 am
If you had a choice what would you choose


to be in love
or
to have a million dollars
to have lifetime free travel
or what would you choose over love


chatillion 70M
1537 posts
7/9/2014 6:32 am

I'll take the money... thank you!


woaini1947 59M
3973 posts
7/9/2014 8:46 am

The question is "to be in love." or to "have a million dollars." Just because I am in love that does not guarantee happiness. People who love each other get divorced every day because they are incompatible. Besides, love quite often is one-sided. I may "be in love" but my partner may just "be in like." I am not as young as BK and my chances of falling in love and being loved in return are pretty slim. I will heal my lovelorn self with the money. The statement that money can't buy happiness is something rich people tell us poor folks to make us feel better about being broke. Check the profiles on this site. money may not buy you love but it sure will put you in a great bargaining position.


woaini1947 59M
3973 posts
7/11/2014 10:08 am

You are right. You will have a more fulfilling and carefree life if you marry an intelligent man with a good heart. In the U.S., women say they want that kind of man but when they get him, they feel that any benefit they derive from having a good man, they deserve. Once they have the love they see no need to continue pleasing their mate and then complain when he finds solace in the arms of a more appreciative woman. American women will tell all who will listen, that the relationship was never about money but go through a divorce and you will soon learn that it was always about money. Your ex will have her lawyer demand alimony, the house, medical insurance, the furniture, half your retirement, and any assets she has earned through working, she will feel no need to share. Most rich women have never worked, never cleaned their home or even cooked a meal. The children are raised by a nanny and most of the family money goes for cocktail parties, junk jewelry and overpriced clothes. Like I said before, I'll take the money. If I am rich I can find a lady to tell me anything I want to hear for at least three to four months. After she tells me she doesn't really think bald guys are cute, I can go out and find another attractive liar. Also, even if I am crazy enough to get married to an American woman (I would have to be blind drunk), any money I had before the marriage would not be considered community property. The marriage would probably last longer anyway because if she knows she can't get the money after a divorce, she will be more inclined to stick around and help me spend it. I have heard hundreds of men complain about what their wife did to them but I have never heard any man complain that an excess of money was painful. After a divorce, if you have money, you can fly to Thailand and get a cute lady to hold your hand and agree with you that your ex was an awful person and she didn't deserve you. Marry for love and you will end up broke after the divorce, and you'll be lucky to attract a homeless lady pushing a grocery cart full of rags. Bigamy is having one wife too many, but sometimes, so is monogamy. Give me the money. (I am not sure how serious I am about any of what I have said here since I have always been considered a romantic guy and always believed that there is at least one woman in this world who would appreciate a nice guy. I know BK is reading this and laughing and that is good enough for me)


beyondfantasy3 111M
4737 posts
7/12/2014 7:04 am

Actually, this plays out far too often:
marry an intelligent man with a good heart. In the U.S., women say they want that kind of man but when they get him, they feel that any benefit they derive from having a good man, they deserve. Once they have the love they see no need to continue pleasing their mate and then complain when he finds solace in the arms of a more appreciative woman. American women will tell all who will listen, that the relationship was never about money but go through a divorce and you will soon learn that it was always about money. Your ex will have her lawyer demand alimony, the house, medical insurance, the furniture, half your retirement, and any assets she has earned through working, she will feel no need to share. Most rich women have never worked, never cleaned their home or even cooked a meal. The children are raised by a nanny and most of the family money goes for cocktail parties, junk jewelry and overpriced clothes.

I often wonder why- "well to do men", and certainly "very wealthy men get married". Often times the women many of these men choose, would not have considered him if it was not for his financial status.

To many women who have a nice face and shapely body, consider it as a commodity which they fell should attract them a certain level of economic options. Society in any place has this same issue.
Physical Appeal bartered for Monetary Means. but like clock work, even after the barter arrangement has been stuck. People expect to have expectations which run the gambit of expecting some form or manner of submission, At that point, the nature of 'bartering details come to surface" of which neither agreed to in their initial barter arrangement, which they pretended was "Love", when it at basic was never any more than a bartered exchange.

Love has to be based on Love. people speak vows, as just words buy have no idea what they have spoken. Most have absolutely no regard for what "Richer or Poor means. it's not just money, it about all the things that come with being richer, and all the things that come along which may create one to become poorer. People have no stomach for the details which make up "Richer or Poorer".

Many people are more interested in the opulence and pageantry of the marriage ceremony, the whole courtship after the engagement, is all focused on the Ceremony, not on how life shape and evolved once the Ceremony is done. but as long as there is an Industry built around the Ceremony, then it will be promoted as the basis of the marriage delights of flight and fantasy into the marriage arena. But, when the honey moon is over and the farmers moon is present discord rages, an it has one aim, and that is looking for the harvest moon. If the farmers moon is long sustained, with not high production harvest, suddenly, there is no remembrance of the vows, concerning Richer or Poorer, nor is there any vows that consider "Sickness and Health".

People are very shallow, as often we can see that in the slap stick commentary, that focuses itself mostly on erogenous aims of romantic fantasy. Often these who have such views, are quickly distraught at what is within the reality of lives being shared.

Now if its Love for the Sake of Love... Then, utopia1955 has it right. and with Love for the sake of love, all things can be made to become into the lives of the Loving, including monies, because they don't waste it, nor to do obsessively chase it, but they respect it and through respect they appreciate what it is, but it does not become the dominatrix over them. If they loose the money, they still have love, if they gain more money, they still have love as their basis.

We can see a lot of this in the common society, many who may never become wealthy, but over time, they work together, their means increase and they find working together affords them opportunities to share doing select things which are well planned by the both of them.

There is a reason why the very wealthy like Bill Gates and others have vowed not to leave vast wealth to their offspring's. These people have lived it and they know the things wealth attracts and the deceptions and the eloborate ruses that can come into being based on what the wealth attracts. they also have come to know, the delusion that wealth can have upon wastefulness, carelessness and exaggerated egos and many of the things which ultimately destroys the humanity factor in many individuals.

Be careful what you choose, and know what makes up the motivation of the choice.

The Wise would choose "Love", if it is to be found as being "love for the sake of love".

In the world of many dis-enchantments and the daily exposure to the many natures of vanity, material chase, fantasy illusions and such, Some have known the negatives of such that money attracts. Therefor they too know, that with money, they can attract 'novelty" without much effort, and this can easily become the choice to choose the money; when the faith of finding Love for the sake of love has evolved to limited hope of finding such.

Often times, it is not that it is not available or can't be found. It may not be packaged as one expects or aims to expect, one they get older. They might want it in the package of a youthful body, but they want the wisdom's and mind of one who has gained such through age. These things are often not combined in a "fantasy package". they are two very different things. Youthful body and youthful face is exactly that, a youthful body and a youthful face. An aged and matured mind is just that, an aged and matured mind. They do not come in the same package.

Nature has made it so...

In youth if that appeal is respected for its power to attract, then one may find that they get to have the longevity which will bond them more as they gain the aged and matured minds. But, in general people are not functioning in this rationale. Fantasy and Fictions, Vanity and Egos Aims to seduce and be seduced is a perpetual cycle that generally consumes the youth of many. Then when many become aged and matured, they have become also jaded, by their own doings in some cases.
(EXCEPT FOR) those who lost a long term love through the early deceasing of their mate.

For these types, when they go out to seek love, they are generally seeking love for the sake of love, because that is what they have lived an they understand the value of love for the sake of love. It is sad, that some will maliciously take unwarranted advantage of these types, and try and use their strength as a weakness, never realizing that their kindness is genuine and it is based in what they've learned to value within what is loves truth. These types, generally have no aim or interest in games and fantasy delusions. They are seeking honesty, the will and ability to face and work with truths, and to build love for the sake of love.

Therefore, for young women who claim to seek older men, has much to consider and if they live with any sense of compassionate understanding, they would be well benefited in self growth, to know when seeking an older man, they may prepare themselves to deal with realism's in matured terms. or it won't evolve to become love for the sake of love.

BE CAREFUL AND MINDFUL IN WHAT YOU CHOOSE. IS ALWAYS A GOOD POLICY TO LIVE BY.


woaini1947 59M
3973 posts
8/5/2014 7:28 am

    Quoting beautifulkayra:
    I have read this comment before but I was traveling and didn't have neither time or internet access to share my thoughts. I looked for this post again a while ago but couldn't find it until now.

    When divorce happen, whats wrong if the women get the money and use it for the kids? Especially if the kids still need money to pay for their schools, health insurance, etc....at least till they can be independent.

    I try to trust people, until i find different facts.
Divorce Courts in the U.S. always mandate that the children are cared for. This is never a point of contention. I would never condone a father not caring for his children. Divorce is extremely difficult for children. What I am referring to are these western ladies who sit home, watch soap operas and eat and drink all day and expect the ex-husband to support their lifestyle. A friend of mine is getting divorced. Even though they have been married for four years, they only lived together for six months. Her attitude was so bad she caused him to leave the home and move 400 miles away. They have no children. When they met, she was working and earning $100,000 per year. After they got married she decided she didn't like the job and so she quit and has not worked since. Now she wants her husband, through the divorce, to continue supporting her. I told him to offer her a lump sum of cash because if she collects some of his retirement, he will have worked all these years, building up his retirement for nothing. She is ten years younger than him. It is sad but most often, for a man, unless he wants children, marriage serves no purpose. Here in the U.S.,with the divorce rate at 50%, the risk is very high and the rewards are few.