jmenyo 51F
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6/24/2013 3:15 am
Chinese built: Lasi highway

The highway from Yaan(雅安) to Xichang(西昌), Sichuan province, was opened to traffic in April, 2012.



I leave no trace of wings in the air, but I am glad I have had my flight. ---- Rabindranath Tagore


beyondfantasy3 113M
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7/1/2013 5:59 pm

I don't post as many original blogs as I use to, as I am very busy with many projects. I'm building a system which hopefully will improve conditions for many divisions of employees. currently my desk is full at work, and my desk is full at home with issue that I have to deal with.
I truly have to spend more time with health development, because as I age things change and I have to make the adjustment which means changing habit patterns in certain aspects.


beyondfantasy3 113M
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7/1/2013 5:56 pm

    Quoting jmenyo:
    I do thank you, for indulging subject materials... there are a few other posters who indulge the expanse of subject matter... I often enjoy their interactive engagement in doing so.

    You are welcome. It's my pleasure too to exchange views with people from other parts of the world. Isn't it interesting?

    In fact I do have some other topics under consideration but I don't have much free time right now. I am preparing an exam in late July, it's important for me so I have to go all out. Maybe after I finish my exam I will spend more time on here.
Good luck on your exam....

I do like that you enjoy exploring subject matter. I find that quite delightful.


beyondfantasy3 113M
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7/1/2013 5:54 pm

    Quoting jmenyo:
    Interestingly I often wonder the question as well. What are westerners looking for from Asian women as they seem to be so fascinated by?

    1. Ethnic attraction? Asian women are naturally slim and looking young when they get old.

    2. A submissive wife? A good cook? A baby sitter? Or a free servant who takes over all housework without complaints? Male chauvinism has a long history in Asia and Asian women used to seem to get used of these cultures.

    As westerners please be honest with yourself, take a look deep in your heart and ask yourself what you are really looking for from Asian women. If your answer are both 1 and 2, perhaps you should stop your silly delusion now. Times have changed, women in China especially those who are under 35 are not like their mothers anymore. They are more independent, progressive, and ask for equality in any area of life. Surely there are still chances to find a submissive Asian woman if you are lucky enough and happy to live with a good looking but simple minded vase, then congratulations.
Interesting response:

Men should maybe look at the whole spectrum, not all Asian women retain that youthful look at a certain age... and certainly not all remain slim like teenage girls.... and that is just life.

I think a lot of men may not realize some of these women live at a much faster pace than some of the men, and the women are not interested in slowing down their pace to fit yesterday's folklore assumptions.

Technology where ever it exist has changed people, those older era home cooked meals are not what the today's generations aspire to invest a great deal of time doing.

many women are driven by their aims to achieve things, and they may or may not commit to something, and some may not want to commit to anything that carries with it, the inkling that they have to 'take care of the house and such things". It's just not part of their program, especially many of the young ones in their 20's and part of their 30's, and by the time some women get in their mid to late 40's they have worked themselves into a mindset that they don't want to commit to anything but themselves and their goals.
So there is a mixture of change and the image of the docile Asian women is a myth now and has been a myth in the minds of men for many decades.
As to sx, they are like any other woman, they want to do it but not as some service and duty, they want to do it with their own motivation s and their own interest... and they don't want to feel like some guy is going to "bound" them just because they shared some bedroom.
activity.

Just as there is a lot of divorces in China, like else where in the world, it should tell guys, that the delusions that Asian women are all going to make some life long commitment and be the number one sacrificial being, then they are certainly in for the shock of their lives.


beyondfantasy3 113M
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6/29/2013 10:01 am

I'm amazed so many people on here who claim to be interested in Chinese women, but they don't indulge any of these conversations which tries to reach below the surface and talk about some over all aspects of nation and function.

Without interest in these things, how can one think they can extract the woman and see her in open perspective without trying to understand the system of society in which she lives. ...

I've been on this site a long time, but I'm very much not delighted with the shallowness and lack of interest in so many topics that people seem to have about interactiveness or even the concerns to probe and interactively investigate for discovery as well as understandings expansion.

I do thank you, for indulging subject materials... there are a few other posters who indulge the expanse of subject matter... I often enjoy their interactive engagement in doing so.


beyondfantasy3 113M
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6/27/2013 5:57 am

The pollution is a bit heavy. Well, I've gotten used of it. And it is more like an inevitable period while economic development. Just think about that London used to be the city of fog. Luckily China has noticed the problem. I hope things will be better as I don't want it to damage my daughter's health finally.

environment management changes is a slow process all over the world, but China has began to invest in making that change happen, it will progress..as they modernize much in the coming decade or so.


beyondfantasy3 113M
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6/27/2013 5:54 am

    Quoting jmenyo:
    China is smart enough to know, it can't afford American Style Democracy, because they see the chaos it breeds, and with 4 times as many people it cannot promote some delusional freedom claims. But it does understand responsibility accessibility, and it is making reforms to achieve those aims. But to have some DE-stablizing run wild form of democracy, would be chaos beyond belief. which may quickly turn to Provincial Civil Unreast and even Civil Warfare ...

    I appreciate your understanding about China's choice. Not like many other westerners that only focus on China's negative side.

    I don't think I have a position to criticize America's system, the thing I am sure is that it definitely isn't the right system for China. According to China's situation, what it needs is powerful centralism. And China's development also approves that it made the right decision for its people and the nation.

    As westerners may think Chinese people have been blocked and brainwashed by the government's media, many Chinese people think westerners have been blocked and brainwashed by western media as well. The fact is that some westerners are really terribly ignorant about current China with the idea that Chinese are still living in hot water, women are like flies seeing food when they meet westerners and cling to them eagerly, for hoping westerners help them move out of China. I don't know what others think about and I can't represent all, at least for me, so far I think China is good enough for me. I never have the strong will to leave it. Actually I enjoy the food here, the acceptable labor price that allows me to go to the beauty parlor every week, to hire an hourly worker when I am lazy about housework, and so on. Of course there are many things seem to need to be worried about, too. The pollution is a bit heavy. Well, I've gotten used of it. And it is more like an inevitable period while economic development. Just think about that London used to be the city of fog. Luckily China has noticed the problem. I hope things will be better as I don't want it to damage my daughter's health finally.
The fact is that some westerners are really terribly ignorant about current China with the idea that Chinese are still living in hot water, women are like flies seeing food when they meet westerners and cling to them eagerly, for hoping westerners help them move out of China.

Actually China's currency works for China, people who work and earn can do what the environment offers to do. Like Thailand, I saw the Thai people enjoy their movie facilities, their eateries and shopping, actually no less than the level of the idea of Americans.
Chinese women are women, they are not docile nor are they any nature of the "Western TV Bonanza"... of some submissive subservient being. They are however, groomed in a cultures that has a concept of grace that is embraced, but that also come in a respectful situation. If you piss them off they know how to tell a person to 'buzz off" and they will "shut you off".. and move along their way.

The system is different in the factor, if you don't know them, they will only respond directly to your question without elaboration, if you ask them something specific they will address the specific without any further elaboration. This however is a point, that I find difficult talking to the women in the initial stages, because they may not keep the conversation flowing as people do in the West.

I would be unthinkable to assume that a billion plus people with a wide variety of cultural norms and ideological concepts would function well in some two party democracy. It just does not work in volumes that large. China has single Provinces with an equivalent of 1/3 of US total population. I don't know if people grasp that dynamic when they talk about - Western style free speech and such. It could become very challenging for China.
If China did not manage its media, the media alone would create conflict, because the media news is driven by 'controversy and inflammatory agenda".. that's the psychology of trying to capture peoples emotional attentions. SAdly, in America people are not discerning enough about what they give themselves over to in media devotion to the pundits... so any issue can get blow out of spectrum quickly.
We now have a Justic system that is being made into a mockery with Court TV and these Nancy Grace like shows, that insult the integrity of American Justice.
China also does not have time to play games with guilt people who damage society... they move to remedy the situation with quick punishments.
I don't think the harshness of some of its actions are pleasant, but because it is harsh, people manage themselves better in how they pursue to incite something. As to Corporate crimes that damage the nation, they don't treat these criminals as some royalty, they move swift to give them the punishment to fit the damage they have done to the masses.

As to the women, they in general may not advertise themselves in every ways the Western women do, (sadly that is changing), but as to bedroom activity, they will do and share what ever you can want to do and share, and they have no problem with it, as long as you are in an appreciative mode to mutually share what is being done. They are no more or less sexual than any other people.. but they do like the congeniality of sharing and if you are open to talk about things, in a personal interaction they will talk about it with you. This has been my experience. But the foundation is first and foremost a open appreciation of person to person..

I don't generally go for the " It's our tradition" about everything they say, because that can be used as a tool when people don't want to deal with something, or they want you to deal with something in a way that maybe you are not so motivated to deal with it.
So that is a point of discussion about what ever it is. But I do however regard what they say about, Public manners and the generalized public acceptable manner, because they know more about such than a foreigner does.

I think some of the guys who have this 'idealized delusion" about Asian women based purely on their looks and their body manner of public movement... is something that is often time very mis-understood.
Cross culture attractions has many things, women know that western men see women in a more liberal sense as to her right to be and do, so they will over time when they get to know that man, be more 'right to be" in the choices she will make, and sometimes, western men get perturbed, because he is looking for her to remain as if she is in China with a Chinese man under the Chinese male ideology, and that simply is not the case.
They can be aggressive, and very driven and that to some becomes a shock, when they bring her outside the Chinese manner of male and female culture, to a western culture. She will over time change to adapt to the ways of women's manners in certain things and in certain ways.

But, there are many who have no interest to leave China, they may delight to be able to travel to other places, as would anyone, but they would still want to return to China, especially those who have a comfortable living within China and a community life interaction within China.
But anyone from any place if they are in a destitute situation, may well want to go some place where opportunity affords them uplift options.

I think if people give though beyond fantasy and face realism of human nature of person and culture, as well as what is within and of the world, they may see more clearly and thus may be capable then to make better selections and more sustainable relationships with cross cultural mix.


beyondfantasy3 113M
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6/26/2013 4:55 am

Can't find any English information about Lasi highway on google or Wikipedia. Only got some Chinese introduction on Baidu.

The West does not want to carry a story about these magnificent developments and structures, because it will bring true focus to our failure to even maintain what we have and the dire failure to build better components within our infrastructure.

America is a good nation in a great many respects, but it is a sad state of affairs as to how our right wing policies have taken this country down, We saw a crash in 2008 that damaged the entire global economy. Yes, greed, lying, deceptive games in the financial markets and such things, harmed the world. Then the Right wing became enraged because President Obama made an apology to the world community and vowed to address and fix these problems. AGAIN, the right wing got in the way and clogged that process, they blocked sweeping banking reforms, they blocked sweeping Wall Street Reforms, they have hindered in every way Housing Reforms, they has gridlocked and squander the money for Road Repairs, and they clogged up and continue to do all they can to avoid seeing any progress from the Stimulus investments.

We have an evil regime in our Right Wing mentality and the political players who occupy these seats. They are the front runner who promote Plutocracy, and their aim is for Plutocracy to dominate and usurp Democracy. Their ideals are born of a Pre Civil War Confederacy Mentality. This is the greatest roadblock America has to progress.
The last two Presidential campaigns showed vividly the segregation aims of the Right Wing, it was visually present for the world to see. Their policies are anti women, anti minorities and anti- poor whites. Their aims are to indenture people unto industry, rather than for industry to be the support system of a humane society. They are first on the stoop to promote some war mongering actions, and they are the last to want their sons and daughters involved. They are trying by every means to disband and weaken the Military Foundation and the continuance of their ignorance is not unlike a conspiracy to try and return the system to one of indenture and servitude.
What party in their right mind that respects people, would even promote the aims to dismantle a Voting Rights Bill... yet stop around the world telling other people to have a free and fair voting program.

The Republican party in America truly needs to be disbanded by the people, or they will not stop until they destroy the ideals of what is America and its pursuit to be a fair and true democracy.

Our greatest enemy is within. it is saturated in our congressional House dominated by Republican Madness.
The outside world, rejoiced when we got Republican out of the Presidential Office, because they alienated so many in so many lands, because they have no affinity for diplomacy. Only when President Obama came to office, did the promotion of diplomacy get new birth. but he has been criticized by the cowboy mentality of the Right Wing, because he believes in diplomatic process.


beyondfantasy3 113M
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6/25/2013 5:30 pm

    Quoting jmenyo:
    Chinese are great builders... I like that they don't get bogged down in political craziness when they want to build something. This is a good aspect of a central government under the socialist theme. "they build for the people.

    Completely agree.

    Sichuan province is located in the southwest of China, which is a basin itself (Sichuan Basin), however in close to Tibet Plateau, the highest plateau of the world. The geographical environment is very harsh. Chinese have an old saying that “walking on the narrow paths of Shu Kingdom is more difficult than climbing up to Heaven!” Shu kingdom is just the traditional title of Sichuan province. The famous Sichuan Earthquake in 2008 and Yaan Earthquake in April this year all happened in this area.

    From the economical points, to recoup the investment for the project may take a very long time, or can't recoup at all. However from the view of the people's livelihood, or a military perspective, it has significance. Lasi highway is a component part of the highway network that connects the western part of China, especially Tibet Plateau, and middle and eastern part of China.

    In this sense, one-party system sometimes isn't bad.

    Can't find any English information about Lasi highway on google or Wikipedia. Only got some Chinese introduction on Baidu.

    BTW, China's High Speed Rail network is taking shape. As for me there is light rail from my city to Guangzhou, and then HSR from Guangzhou to Beijing in about 8 hours.

    概况
    雅西高速公路由四川盆地边缘向横断山区高地爬升,沿南丝绸之路穿越中国大西南地质灾害频发的深山峡谷地区,地形条件极其险峻,地质结构极其复杂,气候条件极为多变,生态环境极其脆弱,建设条件极其艰苦、安全营运难度极大,被国内外专家学者公认为国内乃至全世界自然环境最恶劣、工程难度最大、科技含量最高的山区高速公路之一。
    雅西高速公路还跨越青衣江、大渡河、安宁河等水系和12条地震断裂带,整条高速公路线展布在崇山峻岭之间,山峦重叠,地势险峻,每向前延伸一公里,平均海拔高程就将上升7.5米,被称作“天梯高速”、“云端上的高速公路”。全线桥隧比高达55%,全线有桥梁270座,其中特大桥23座,大桥168座;有隧道25座,其中特长隧道2座,长隧道16座。
The return on the investment is not always a matter of dollars and cents... its the national value it adds to the nation, which is itself "priceless".

Sadly, America has become a nation of astounding ignorance, we have a right wing culture that can't think of anything but " loot something", and promote austerity about anything they can't loot. so the cut mentality has over taken the build and grow mentality. At his rate in 10 yrs we may be the New Argentina of the 21st Century.. "finding downfall, because we have lost the vision and faith to build and grow".
We now have a nation of greed monsters who can't think of anything but over sized selfish mansions and over priced cars and publicity. Ego driven capitalism is the culprit...

China is using capitalism to build its nation, that's a very big difference in being wise and being foolish.

Bigotry has fed and breed a level of ignorance that we are NOW functioning like we did during the era of indentured servants, slaves and plantations of the Confederate South, and the More President Obama tries to move us away that ignorance, the more the right wing tries to lead us down that path.. Because American can't get that out of its system among the very elite, and the ignorance of the educational system that educated the vainly wealthy.
People will kill their mother, father, sister, brother and anything else they can kill for the vain self glory of buffoon driven wealth aims. Rome fell for many of the same principle reasons, as did Greece and many use to be empires, The British empire shrank, because they too unfair advantage of every nation they placed their claim. Today, its fragmented old shell of itself. unable to modernize and social unrest and living on the last legs of yesterday's delusions.

American News media is like a monster with a killer virus, they will destroy anything for the glory seeking of sitting behind a desk and getting advertising money. They have no more dignity. all we have is a list of 'talk show with people sitting around the table stirring the pot of controversy, trying to make a name for themselves, and too dumb to know what they are destroying in the process. China is smart enough to 'MANAGE AND GOVERN its press, for the sake of National Dignity.
That is a concept that is null and void in America's media.


China is smart enough to know, it can't afford American Style Democracy, because they see the chaos it breeds, and with 4 times as many people it cannot promote some delusional freedom claims. But it does understand responsibility accessibility, and it is making reforms to achieve those aims. But to have some DE-stablizing run wild form of democracy, would be chaos beyond belief. which may quickly turn to Provincial Civil Unreast and even Civil Warfare ...

They understand the history of what it took to "unify China", they will not throw it away on some delusional concept of UN-responsibile claim of freedom, because they know it only leads to a plutocracy of a different sort that becomes the catalysis of feudal conflicts. Since the 1990's many liberties have been built into the system and there is more to come, but what China had first was a society disciplined to a degree under a system that taught people some unity as well as some humility of social system.

None of the western scholars will talk straight when they are discussing what is China and its Future, But what we have seen is, immediately when and as the wealth began to mount in China, they began of invest in the nation and its infrastructure. they began to modernize their cities and set a tone for progressive and functional growth and development.

As with all such things it has built in problems and people who will abuse what exist and greed will exist, but at the national level, they have a consensus when it comes to their nation and infrastructure needs for their people.

Two very different dynamics, when contrasted against the west.


beyondfantasy3 113M
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6/24/2013 5:57 pm

Chinese are great builders... I like that they don't get bogged down in political craziness when they want to build something. This is a good aspect of a central government under the socialist theme. "they build for the people.

Here in America, no one can get anything built because the greed monsters always want to rip off the project and then use substandard stuff.

I remember when they were building, Chek Lap Kok. Hong Kong's International Airport. If you go there, look at the floors... they use 'excellent stone", because they don't plan to have to re-do it every 5 yrs. They built really high ceiling and they used a lot of very good quality glass. I was amazing as I walked all over during the last phase of construction until the grand opening.
Go look around the world now... America is like a old system when it comes to what other countries are doing with building, We can't even build a High Speed Rail to go from Los Angeles to Las Vegas... or from New York to Chicago..
contractors want so loot it blind, politicians want a kick back or their name stamped on everything, and the result is nothing bets built.
We can't even repair our roads, President Obama built in Stimilus money to fix roads, but Right winger have found a way to clog it up and drain away the money and then try and use skeleton crews and cheap materials. So the result is, nothing happens.

We don't have the integrity anymore of what existed when Eisenhower built the Freeways, or Roosevelt built the massive well designed and good material creations of his time. All we have now is thieves at the gate with buckets ready to steal and over inflate cost and walk away with a kings ransom.

China will continue to build great things, and they do with the regard that they have 4 times the population to respect in what they create.

All we have is criminal banking system, crazy lawyers and self gloating politicians who can't think of anything but staying in a do nothing office seat while they grandstand on the media.

American business men ran to China looking for a new slave force, so they could live like they were plantation owners, without having to take the direct blame for slavery seeking. As a result they have done nothing but crash a nation and destroyed the spirit of building.

Look at the disrespect of how they let masterful creation in Detroit fall into shambles, all for greed, and all to avoid women, poor whites and minorities from having economic uplift. Soon as Civil Rights Bill was passed they began to dismantle America industry, because Civil Rights meant, that Minorities, Women and Poor Whites would require economic equilibrium... so they choose to destroy American Industry, to avoid equality building.
President Obama, said, let's build from the bottom up, and the Right Wing crazies and Ultra Rich went Crazy!!!!! they hijacked the Republican Party and by 2008 they looted and crashed everything. The evils of a Plantation System mentality never left the current Right Wing, they are not nothing more than a party in pursuit of re-creating the Southern Confederacy with a Plantation system mentality.

China has built more in a single year, that America has built in the past 15 or so years.

We have trains a mile or more long bring back all this equipment from Iraq, with nothing to do within and all they will do is store it in the desert and let the heat and dust erode it... This is the Trillions President Bush wasted..
Again, President Obama did what he said, he went after Bin Laden just as he said he would, with a scapulae approach. not a sledge hammer and a broad axe... He used intelligence gather and careful planning and took the man down with a specialized crew. But Right wingers will never give him credit for the wisdom nor the intelligent methodology. He shut down the War in Iraq where McCain was aiming to extend it for , as he said... a hundred years if he though it was in his glory seeking benefit.

The slave seeking of our industry have made it so, American Industry can't even make a pair of socks, because the industrialist are not longer respectful of 25-45% profit margins, they want 3000% profit margins or they destroy the company. they don't want to pay workers, and use everything of a lesser grade when building..
Decades ago, the world bought American goods, because everything was built using quality materials and it was repairable. all we do now is waste resources and over fill the landfills with disposable junk.

Good work ... China... Keep building with quality and keep building good projects that are designed to last.. makes these idiots here will wake up and get off the greed horse and discard their avarice driven mentality to loot and degrade the quality of developments.

Hopefully the new generation of young people will detest what the baby boomers and their direct offspring's have done to this nation.
What we need now is a new crop of University Instructions, who are not teaching the greed by any means principle... because these asshole for the last 30 years have taught nothing but material greed and how to loot someone with paperwork. Until we have a system now, that all people can think is 'cut something else".. they have no spirit of faith to build or do anything progressive. other than play games on gadgets and have starlets get naked in the media and show buffoons on reality Tv acting and UN-dignified ass.... with a mass of old worn out politicians that should go home and sit in their back yard and drink lemonade... they need to get out of the way... and let this nation heal and rebuild itself.