sentttiiie_11 41F
1455 posts
9/4/2015 3:16 pm
Syrian 's dad: 'Everything I was dreaming of is gone'

Two-year-old Aylan Kurdi was born into a country eaten up by war. His parents, Abdullah and Rehen, only wanted a better life for Aylan and his 4-year-old brother, Galip, than they had in Kobani, Syria.

They wanted what anyone does -- what hundreds of thousands of people fleeing violence, who have flooded Europe, want -- a safe home.

Trying to make that simple but treacherous dream a reality, Aylan, his brother and mother drowned. An image of the boy's body on a Turkish beach shook social media and outraged leaders in Canada, where the family had hoped to wind up, and many others watching the European migrant crisis unfold.

Young refugee's body washes ashore in Turkey
10 photos: Young refugee's body washes ashore in Turkey
On Thursday, four Syrian citizens were taken into custody, suspected of human trafficking in connection with their deaths and those of nine others whose bodies washed ashore, according to Turkey's semiofficial Anadolu news agency.

Abdullah, the only Kurdi family member to survive the trip, says he has nothing left to live for.

"I don't want anything else from this world," he told CNN on Thursday. "Everything I was dreaming of is gone. I want to bury my and sit beside them until I die."

Trying to get to Canada
Canadian Member of Parliament Fin Donnelly told CNN partner CTV that Abdullah's sister Tima Kurdi, who lives in Vancouver, had filed refugee paperwork to obtain permission for the family to live in Canada, but the application had been rejected in June.

But Tima Kurdi, in a later interview Thursday with CTV, said she had actually filed paperwork for her other brother, Mohammed, and that was rejected.

The Department of Citizenship and Immigration Canada confirmed Thursday it never received an application for Abdullah.

"An application for Mr. Mohammad Kurdi and his family was received by the department but was returned as it was incomplete as it did not meet regulatory requirements for proof of refugee status recognition," the agency announced. "There was no record of an application received for Mr. Abdullah Kurdi and his family. Canada did not offer citizenship to Mr. Abdullah Kurdi."

Tima Kurdi said she was hoping to personally put up the money to sponsor Mohammed and his four to come to Canada. They are now in Germany.

Meanwhile, she had been sending money to Abdullah. She presumes that Abdullah used those funds to try to get his family to Canada. Tima knew of his plans to take the dangerous voyage, she said, and she recalled a phone call with Abdullah's wife in which Rehen said she was afraid to travel by water.

I'm so scared of the water," Tima recalled her sister-in-law saying. "I don't know how to swim."

The world learned of Aylan's death when a photo of the drowned boy was shared widely on social media, many using the hashtag #KıyıyaVuranİnsanlık or "Flotsam of Humanity" in Turkish.

The body of a drowned baby washes up on Turkish beach

The body of a drowned baby washes up on Turkish beach 01:00
It shows the on his stomach, face down on a beach in Turkey. He looks like he's sleeping the way so many his age do, with their bottoms raised and heads gently to the side.

The journalist who shot the photo expressed the outrage, despair and helplessness that it would go on to inspire in many people who saw it.

"There was nothing to do except taking his photograph," said Nilufer Demir, who works for Turkey's Dogan News Agency. "There was nothing to do. And that is exactly what I did. I thought this is the only way I can express the scream of his silent body."

Many are demanding to know what went wrong. Why did this , his brother and mother have to die? Wasn't there some way to give them that safer life?
A trip tried several times
Abdullah Kurdi says he boarded a small fiberglass boat in Turkey with 12 people on board. The vessel was manned by two smugglers, a Turk and a Syrian, he said. It was very crowded.

"I told him, 'Should we empty the boat? Should I get off with my wife and ?'"

One of the smugglers replied, "'No, no, it is good,'" Abdullah recounted.

Large waves began crashing against the boat soon after the refugees set out.

Europe's refugee crisis in 20 photos
21 photos: Europe's refugee crisis in 20 photos
Kurdi again raised his concern but the smuggler insisted, "It is guaranteed. Guaranteed."

Shortly afterward, the smuggler jumped overboard and swam toward shore as the waves pounded harder and higher.

Kurdi tried to take control of the boat but it capsized in the rough waters.

"I tried to reach for my wife and ," he said. "I was in the water for 20 minutes. One person after another was dying."

Turkish rescue teams were able to save some people aboard the boats, Turkey's governor's office said. Two men and a who were traveling in the group are missing.

Originally from Syria's capital, Damascus, Abdullah said he was trying to get to Sweden by way of Greece.

"I don't want anything from anyone anymore," he said. "I will sit by my wife and and read them Quran until I die, God willing."


beyondfantasy3 113M
4740 posts
9/5/2015 6:59 am

That is truly sad... yet I see story after story of people in refugee boats fleeing various areas.
What 'Wu" said is in part a hard and harsh truth. What I don't understand is why do the people in these lands continue to support a ideology which will not stand up to radicals or consider there is evidentally a problem with the ideology.
Nations have spent BILLIONS and afterwards, it seem each time the people of various regions allow the radicals to come back and re-establish themselves.

Any place with people willing to strap on explosives, and every other means of bombing on a daily basis. Then it is something fundamentally wrong and the only people who can fix it is the people living there. They allow these people to live among them, knowing well in advance of the radicalization mentality many of them hold.

I like what some African location did, they banned the head to toe covering "Only a month after the Muslim-majority nation of Chad announced in June a ban on the burqa and full-face veils, neighbouring Cameroon has done likewise. And for the same reason – to save lives administrative regions in Cameroon outlawed the burqa and full-face veil.

Western Nations should Ban these costumes as well, if people want to move to a western region, then they should understand this is not some attire they will be allowed to wear.
Additionally, there has to be some means within each nation who allows immigrants from Muslim nations, to require the people to be under some type of watch for xx years, Any Mosque should be monitored to find our what are they teaching.
Various parts of Europe is going to have problems and big ones, Europe may be among the first Western Nations to put some management controls on Muslims. It's sad those who say and claim to be non violent will have to be redressed in mentality to ensure they are not potential radicals. But since they have not done enough to root out the malicious ones, then they have to be scrutinized.

The money the world has spent fighting this madness, could have improved economies around the world. At some point that logical and rational awareness will dictate a means to take actions which will be drastic enough to put controls or bans in place or some very bold acts to squash this madness. History shows, the world only tolerates madness once it crosses a threshold for only so long.

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"" A factor that keeps Muslim people from converting to other religions is that in many societies, if a Muslim converts, their family or others try to kill them. Generally, the Muslim family feels pressured to disown them and put them out of the family. Even educated Muslims in Western countries often say it is right to kill people who grew up in Muslim families and converted to another religion. Muslims are also not permitted to learn about other religions, and if they are found with religious documents or thought to be changing their religion, they may be punished by the religious leaders. Missionary effort by people of other religions is forbidden by the local religious rulers. So once an ethnic group becomes Muslim, they usually keep their Muslim ways. ""


1ClassyLady 68F
3289 posts
9/5/2015 7:25 pm

It is too sad to read those sad stories. Our sympathy won't bring those lives back. Nothing can. Death is death. Those killings won't stop until ISIS will be disappeared from this planet.

Those war started from evil ISIS, Taliban, and Syria leader Assad. USA has spent billions, if not trillions and thousands of military from the air strikes, from sea, from lands, .... Nothing works.

All I can said is I am so sorry he lost his wife and 2 children. Sorry nobody can help him. There is no justice in mid-East, but only killings.

I couldn't finish reading this news because it is too sad and nothing I can help. People normally don't like sad story.

This is NOT fair, but it is life. So sad.





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