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Posted:Sep 28, 2014 8:20 am
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This is the Response: (to the post that vanished) see vanished post at bottom
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China makes it choices based on its aim for Resources and Export Avenues. Eventually, many nations will have their own ways to deal with China's opposition and non performance stance against not just Russia, but N. Korea and its passive stance against Middle Eastern Terrorism.
China is currently making policy for protectionist aims, to support it's export economy and its need for fuel.
both of which ultimately will not be to China's advantage in the long run.
Nation upon Nation began more than a Decade Ago, to re-think the Imported volumes from China. These same nations have un-rest at seeing their jobs shipped to China, but on a higher level, many nation have high frustration at China targeting industries in other countries and then flooding them with low grade goods to force business in other nations to close.
An article about a few months ago, discussed by an American Furniture company who did an under-cover assignment. they pretended to want to have products built in China, In turn Chinese indusry officials, told them, they'd have to shutter their American Operation if they wanted to have products made in China.
This angered the company and the company exposed this information in the general public, of China's methodology and structured aims to undermine American companies.
The same information came forth, when it came to "Solar Panels", China flooded the American Market with Cheap Panels, causing great losses to Solyndra. It was also noted that Republican supported China's flooding the market, as a Republican Aim to defeat the works of President Obama.
Today, there is a great amount of work compiling data on China's policies, it tried to force various industries to turn over proprietary data, as well as it has been aggressively hacking trying to steal hi tech information and other data.
The level these things are being challenged are aggressive, but not designed to become headline news.
We've seen it all before, the same process was pursued by Japan in the 1980's and 1990's, and Japan's economy still has not recovered.
China cannot function to maintain what it has built without 7-8% growth factor. It is not programmable possible that other nations will settle for 1-2.5% growth to continue supporting China having a 6 point or more growth spread. China does not and cannot buy enough foreign good to balance trade. it is still decades away from improving its average citizen population to become broad based consumers of world goods. currently China is struggling, trying to figure ways to upgrade its internal population to become consumers, its a daunting task to get a 4-5% consumer increase in China, which is what it will need to offset the need for export profits.
Massive infrastructure projects require massive investment for maintenance and servicing needs. There is a great need to have social safety net programs, which is a massive task, when one looks at 400+ million who will continually need assistance, and that number grows as the population ages. Already China has become to rely on immigrant labor, for a number of reasons, the rural and dire poor region still have challenges of massive portion to come close to the suburbs around its mega cities. Within its mega cities, the over-crowding is becoming more problematic, Inflation is being fought, but the need for it to increase is moving faster than the plans to avert it can be pushed forward.
Power is always intoxicating, and it brings with it always illusions of invincibility. But within that is a class warfare that is strong that china will publish to reveal the truth. Income disparity, the wealthy flaunting excesses in the faces of the challenged poor. China is trying to do in 50 yrs what it would take 100 yrs to do. The double down effort is daily a costly matter, which meets with many challenges, some seen and some currently unseen.
The march of the Oligarch's want more say, want more control and want more freedoms, which are counter to the base of communist principle, and China still has challenges of Capitalism Principles, that is in a dire fight against Communist Principles.
The Young have seen a taste of capitalism, they have found the elements of freedoms that are enticing. They have internet accessibility which has made them more aware of many things, which they won't revert nor accept any aims to return to the old system.
Therefore the Ruling Party Members, are in a quandary as to how to deal with this.
A massive crack down won't work, because Tienanmen Square is a constant reminder of what can happen. But it is also a reminder that the people will only tolerate so much push back.
China has been on a Global March seeking Resource Trade Agreements, some good and some not good. It has led to the backing of factions which are globally opposed by the UN. But equally so, some nations especially within Africa, currently accommodate the Chinese Investment, but that comes with much skepticism in other sectors within the same regions where China invest. Regime Change can turn that upside down in a very rapid movement.
Russia does not have the massive Oil Reserves it had 40 yrs ago. Therefore its power in that regards has changed and it changes the position and stance that Russia can promote and support.
Chinese currency is widely perceived to be undervalued against the dollar. Estimates of the degree of undervaluation against the U.S. dollar range from 7% to 67% according to Cline and Williamson ( 2007 ).
"Chinese Firms exporting textiles and apparel receive the overwhelming majority ( 87% ) of their foreign exchange revenues in dollars. However, the distribution of export destinations is much more evenly balanced between the U.S. ( 24% ), Europe ( 30% ), Japan ( 14% ) and other destinations ( 32% ) . Most Firms with significant dollar receipts are able to correctly identify the potential risk of a strengthening of the renminbi against the dollar. However,
this mismatch between currencies and actual destinations means that Firms are much more likely to be unaware of potential problems if the Chinese currency were to appreciate against the Japanese yen or European currencies such as the euro and pound. "
Given the relatively intense competition and low margins in the textile and apparel industries, the hidden currency exposure and lack of effective risk management techniques combine to pose a substantial challenge for the Firms. In the aggregate these issues may present significant difficulties for officials in charge of managing the future course of the Chinese currency. A rapid appreciation of the Chinese currency could be the source of a substantial rise in unemployment for some of the most vulnerable employees in the export sector.
While the survey does not offer direct evidence on pricing-to-market behavior by Chinese exporters, the results confirm that the most likely response of Chinese textile and apparel exporters in the face of an appreciating renminbi is to raise export prices.
This in turn give more rise to the respective countries to re-industrialize their own country facilities to meet and provide the goods to their internal consumers. Add in public unrest and unemployment dis-satisfactions which is taking place in many countries. They will not allow the continued deterioration of their own internal systems, for the benefit of China's continual aim and pursuit of 8-9% growth rates on a yearly basis. they also have and will continue to build up firewalls against the targeted hacking of the Chinese systems aim to acquire data by malicious and undermining aims by any means.
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Xi Jinping: China will never support or participate in sanctions against Russia
Russia eat a Chinese reassurance, said the long-term Sino-Russian relations.
According to the "Voice of Russia" radio station reported that the Chairman of the Russian Federation Council Valentina Matviyenko • After a meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping told reporters that China would never support sanctions against Russia, it will not participate .
Matviyenko stressed, "This is China's public stance, we thank evaluated like China."
According to Matviyenko introduced, China has publicly expressed the imposition of unilateral sanctions against unacceptable, illegal and counterproductive sexual positions. Matviyenko noted that our position here is absolutely consistent.
She pointed out that both Russia and China that "sanctions ineffective, and sees it as trying to put pressure on national sovereignty, to make it change its position and make it weak, the other to prevent its development."
Russia seems to be alluding to the most recent speech the United States and Europe, Russia sanctions strategy. According to Xinhua News Agency, the United States and European Union sanctions against Russia to upgrade again, the intention to increase the pressure on Ukraine to Russia in the issue.
The new sanctions announced by the United States and Europe involving multiple sectors of the Russian financial, oil and military, a number of Russian companies and several individuals heavyweight pulled into the blacklist.
According to the British "Financial Times" reported that the British Petroleum (BP), former chief executive Tony Hayward (Tony Hayward) warned that the United States and the European Union (EU) sanctions against Moscow may inhibit the global oil supply and push up prices, which in turn hurt the West .
The World Bank's data also confirms Matviyenko's remarks. World Bank (World Bank), said the crisis in Europe and Ukraine affected by the sanctions, the Russian economy is expected to stagnate next two years. Russia is expected consumption growth is likely to slow in 2015 from about 2 percent to 0.5 percent this year.
Russia, the United States and Europe facing sanctions could hear Chinese President Xi Jinping's commitment has brought pain to make sanctions halved. Some analysts commented that this should be regarded as a reassuring.
Matviyenko also pointed out that no sanctions can affect the partnership between the two countries.
She said, "Russia has a long-term strategic partnership prospects, she left the political situation without any ambition to anyone, because it conforms to the fundamental interests of our two peoples. From the mouth of China's President's hear such words are hard to come by. "
Chinese President Xi Jinping met with Matviyenko, he said China and Russia to jointly safeguard the postwar order. (Reprint)
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Posted:Sep 27, 2014 4:15 pm
Last Updated:Sep 28, 2014 4:29 pm 43210 Views
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When one looks back over the years and think about dates and mates and many various things. It's interesting, but they all go into the making of whom we are. some make us know what we want, and some make us certain of what we don't want.
The span of time brings so much in our lives that we learn so much from, even when we think we learned little, it may be that we learned more than we were aware of.
Some people over the span of life, go wanting many things of which they never get, but many people go through the span of life, having had the things they wanted and always ... we find out, nothing is really as advertised or imagined before we have it.
It still comes down to 'Us", and did we appreciate what ever it is that we've had. Be it dates, mates or things.
If we did not gain some learning from it, maybe we did not have the appreciation we could have had.
Even the learning through the painful stuff, is such, because we had some level of appreciation ....
Over the time for those who participate here in these blogs. It took many experiences to make us develop, learn and be aware as well as grow.
Because we made the adjustments in self, to learn, become aware and grow.
It all is of the truths we've lived, because it is part of the life we've lived.
Surely, over time, as we move forth... there's much more we will come to learn and be made aware of. The task is to not loose the ability to appreciate, and be wise in what and how we invest ourselves in what we choose.
There is no perfection, nothing stays within the lines of a plan without maintenance of some sort, and things in being what they are, is always more than we know in the whole of it all.
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Posted:Sep 27, 2014 7:25 am
Last Updated:Apr 30, 2015 4:34 pm 46682 Views
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Well.... I visited an upholstery shop, to inquire about re-covering my drivers seat, and the passenger seat (no one generally rides in the passenger seat). But, the original padding in the seat, was not the best of choices when they made the car. I am 98% the only person riding in my car, so the driver seat gets the most use. Yet, the passenger seat is almost as uncomfortable as the drivers seat, (hard).
So, the guy said he could match the age wear of the covering so it is not a stand out. ( don't know how they can do it, but he said he could get it really close)..
Either way, I'm going to have the seats re-covered, to get a very good pad installed.
My current car:
The car has 196K miles on it, but after the recent work done to the engine it runs great, I've planned to have the tires rotated with the next oil change. and I will replace the headlights. ( this stuff they make them out of, seem to turn yellow and most of the chemicals they sell to clean it, does not work.)
Originally the replacement units were $500 each, buy there are some after market parts which list for $159-250, I've seen them installed on a model at a lot, they look good in general, but its probably worth the $300 or so dollars to change them.
As the Mechanic said, If the maintenance and upgrades sum up to less than what a yearly car payment is on a newer car. then it might be cost effective to simply do the repair and upgrade to the one I have.
I don't particularly care to have a car payment, besides some of the cars I'm not impressed nor thrilled about. It seems they are made cheaper and cheaper to get the light weight requirements.
I saw an accident, with a new Mustang and another new car on the news, the whole front end of one car was gone, (yes) gone!!!
Another incident I saw both doors knocked off a Lincoln, and the tires as well, it looked as if someone had began dismantling it, but this was the result of the crash.
many cars when the bumper cover falls off, they look really terrible and really low grade as to what is beneath the plastic molded bumper covers.
Well I know they won't be making any more rolling tank like cars from the 1950' or 1960's, but many cars look good, but the crash rating results is worst that what is often depicted in the simulated crash test.
I do recall, when I had the 1989 Benz, it was a much heavier car than the 1999 Benz.
I do now think I should have kept my Porsche, because they will never build another with the solidity of the 1984 Carrera, or the 1989 Targa Carrera. Both of which were very solid vehicles.
I'm not sure what will be the next type of car I get when I decide to get on. But I do know it likely won't be a new car, it will be a Pre-Owned Unit. I just don't see the need for the fast price decline just because its new, when it's driven off the lot. I'm fairly sure it will be a Benz, or Porsche, although I have been thinking if I want a Corvette. Though I'm not as motivated about a Corvette as I am about a Porsche, but the matter is how old the Porsche should be. I know I can't afford a new one, and not sure If I'd buy it new even if I could afford it.
The only BMW I'd consider is the 7 series, or the 6 series. But, I don't think they will be a likely choice. I've had two BMW, and some that i see, they don't seem to have the same glow after a few years. As to Paint, I think Buick LaCrosse has about one of the best factory commercial paint jobs for standard automobiles from the factor. I do think the Paint on the 84 Porsche was exceptional and the paint on the 89 Benz was exceptional... at least far better than the paint on the 99 Benz.
Mustangs look good, but I question the solidity of the car, and the 5.0 the engine is crammed under the hood with very little space for maintenance, ( although I'd not do the maintenance myself, because new models and higher quality vehicles, require a computer to check the system and they are not designed for novices to work on them. besides I no longer like working on cars as I did when I was younger.)
My current car,
I keep the engine washed, but I have not been diligent to wax it with any frequency. I have had it detailed, but many of them, don't do the type of jobs they use to do. but it has to suffice unless I want to do it myself.
I had this model car when I was 18, I had the same type of side pipes installed.
then I had this Car when I was in Service, except mine had a black top - the problem was it was a 396 with 2 bolt main, so it did not have the power of the 396 with 4 bolt main.
I traded it for this model car - it was very "pumped up"
I also had this model car at one time
I've had other interesting cars, 1955 Ford, 1957 Chevy, 1962 Chevy 67 Volkswagen, 1968 Mustang, 1982 Nissan 300zx, 1991 Lincoln Mk7 and 530 BMW and a 535 BMW along with various others vehicles over the years
I thought about buying an older car and make a performance street rod, but am not sure I want to do it, but I do like some that I see.
I saw a excellent "Stingray" yesterday, from the 1960's it was simply beautiful, I've looked at some on the internet, which have been restored beautifully. Now, that is something I'd like to have, but the really top notch ones are very costly. It's a beautiful car.
I am not interested in any of these little 'toy like cars" they sell with comical commercials, and often I feel bad for the people who purchase them as everyday cars they drive over distances great than the car was made to withstand on a daily basis over the length of time it takes to pay it off.
I like the Telsa, because I like the new technology aspect of it. But I don't think we are as advanced in Battery systems as we need to be. We also don't have the available 'charging stations" that may come into play within the next 5 years or so.
Cars I like
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What will China ultimately do?
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Posted:Sep 27, 2014 4:59 am
Last Updated:Sep 28, 2014 9:45 am 43860 Views
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(From News)
One might expect China to be heavily invested in the international fight to stop Islamic State jihadists from taking over Iraq and Syria: For starters, China is the number one investor in Iraq's oil industry. Yet, Beijing is almost nowhere to be seen in anti-IS coalition discussions. Why?
There are reasons enough for China to get involved. The Asian giant’s economy depends on the Middle East for half its imported energy. China now imports more oil from the region than the United States does, and is the largest investor in the Iraqi oil industry.
And as the Chinese authorities step up their battle against increasingly violent Muslim separatists in the western province of Xinjiang, Islamic State leaders boast of Chinese recruits to their self-declared caliphate.
China’s contribution to the international military assault on Islamic State targets, however, is a timid offer of “intelligence sharing and personnel training” (end news)
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Interesting, after 10 yrs plus of America spending Trillions in Iraq, China comes out with the highest investment in Iraq oil. How Amazing, but they have not stepped up to help with any efforts to rid the area of the terrorist threats.
I guess it will take ISIS to capture enough Refineries which are part of the Chinese Supply line before it will do anything.
If that becomes the Case, and the West Re-take those Refineries, then the "coalition nations" should send China a bill for much of the expense to re-take the refineries, if China does not step up contribute something to fight this Terrorist group.
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China’s contribution to the international military assault on Islamic State targets, however, is a timid offer of “intelligence sharing and personnel training” by Foreign Minister Wang Yi.
China’s rulers are reluctant to get more heavily involved for a number of reasons, say analysts here, ranging from their mistrust of American intentions to a fear of being sucked out of their depth into the Middle East maelstrom.
They are also disappointed that Western governments have been skeptical about Beijing’s hardline response to ethnic unrest among Uighurs in Xinjiang, and they are adamant that only the United Nations can authorize military action in a sovereign state’s territory.
For the first time this week, the state-run Chinese media linked Xinjiang militants to the self-named Islamic State. The Global Times, owned by the ruling Communist Party, quoted an unidentified Chinese “anti-terrorism worker” as saying Uighur militants “want…to expand their connections in international terrorist organizations through actual combat to gain support for escalation of terrorist activities in China.”
In July, the man who has declared himself the caliph of Islamic State, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, claimed that he counted Chinese citizens among his fighters, and accused the Chinese government of “extreme torture and degradation of Muslims” in “East Turkestan,” the name that pro-independence forces give to Xinjiang.
ISLAMIST 'TERRORISM' IN CHINA
More than 300 people have died in escalating violence in Xinjiang over the past 18 months, and Uighur terrorists killed 31 people in a knife attack last March on Kunming railway station in southeastern China.
Beijing blames the violence on the East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM) and the World Uighur Congress; Chinese officials are angry that Western governments do not share their analysis.
The US State Department took ETIM off its list of international terrorist organizations amid doubts over its real status and role. Outside China the World Uighur Congress is considered a peaceful minority rights group pushing for Uighur independence.
Beijing considers such tolerance incoherent. “The fight against terrorism should not have double standards,” says Li Shaoxian, deputy head of the China Institute for Contemporary International Relations, a think tank affiliated with the security forces. “It should respect the rights and wishes of all the countries involved.”
At the same time, the Chinese government is growing increasingly dubious about US intentions and suspicious that Washington and its allies are seeking to contain China and undermine the Communist Party, suggests Zhao Chu, an independent political commentator.
China’s reticence about joining the US-led coalition “is a very obvious symbol of Chinese doubts about US purposes,” says Mr. Zhao.
Zhao argued in a recent blog that Beijing should play a more active role to underline its “concern with international order and justice” and to give its armed forces an opportunity to fight alongside the US military and learn from them.
In a sign of how forcefully the authorities disagree with such thinking, his two blogs were closed down days after he posted his essay on them.
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Posted:Sep 24, 2014 5:14 am
Last Updated:Sep 27, 2014 8:13 am 44810 Views
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The claim of multiple years, is a delusion... I've bought more bulbs in the past year than is reasonably necessary, simply because they burn out quickly.
At the cost of these things, I think eventually there may be a class actions suit against making false claims about the longevity of these bulbs.
I've practically bought twice as many of these highly priced things, than the old standard bulbs, which in some cases had a longer life span in various usages around the home.
I think they need to either make it right, or there needs to be some address to this process of ripping off the consumers.
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When Things Fall Apart - it's down played until it Crashes.
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Posted:Sep 24, 2014 4:32 am
Last Updated:Sep 28, 2014 9:50 am 43188 Views
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Seems there are protest about everything.
want to wear the crap that these entertainer wear for show, they want to wear it in the streets, to school, and any place where they can expose as much lure like imagery as possible.
want to have their cell phones in the classrooms, as if it has something to do with the education programs.
We've got a run away society, the long running generation of and the delusion that anything goes has taken strong hold in the American student mentality.
Yet, over the years and decades, the declining performance, the continuing drop-out and even the fight against new methods of learning.
It appears that America is declining in every areas. We've already seen the Executive greed destroy the Industrial sector for every type of product that is used by people, both in their homes and out of their homes.
We've seen the decline in the quality of filming, where everything it zombie, devastation and blow up and slaughter something.
We see the home life where parents are wiping out the and themselves, we see killing , and people wiping out unsuspecting general public groups be it in the movies or other places.
We've seen the Financial sector become nothing but greed by criminal devise,
We've watched as cities have gone bankrupt, some run out of water, and other just deteriorate into squalor.
We watch the wealthy white flight, seeking to go further and drain away city resources for private enclaves.
We have a Republican Congress that insults the people at any chance it gets because they need or use public assistance, as if the Republican take zero responsibility for the exodus of industry and the greatest financial disaster since the 1930's.
We've watched Republican gridlock everything from Immigration to jobs bills, and fight like mad men against the basics of a living wage.
We watch the war mongering groups, who can't respect a global coalition to fight terrorism, and push for US to forge ahead, then complain that we are not taking the bully push ahead alone attitude. Yet, they'd complain if the US had attacked Syria or other places, as if the push to rush to fight is a lusting by some in the congress, while the wise pursue a global agreement to address a global threat.
We see now, the once dominant auto market, shredded, we can't even make tires for the cars, and then we complain about fuel shortages, but when we find fuel on our shores, we start selling it, rather than slow down on pumping, and use it on American soil.
This is the result when the wealthy have too much lobbyist driven influence to buy up the elected representatives in Congress, and then buy away the voice and vote of the people.
We've become a nation that push so fast for high saturation of homosexual promotions, that now before finish middle school, they are already claiming the status, long before in other parts of the world even begin to date or have middle or high school romances.
Rome did not fall by a single blow, it fell from the erosion's within which deteriorated every aspect of life. Driven by materialism, every one with some level of wealth wanted to be their own king of the landscape...
Today, one would never know Rome once had a great Empire, even the same happen to the British Empire, it too descended and declined by the many abuses its greed imposed on the lands it occupied and soon the sun set on many places that no longer were under the British Empire's claims.
We have University now turned into a massive business, selling delusion and charging excessive top prices an staking their claim on a profitable sports team as their claim to fame.
When Wealth once built a country, it now produces mad men and wild greed pursuits, where everyone is seeking 10 bathrooms and palace like homes, for not just single individuals, but less families, who's sole aim is to have the biggest and most opulent of estates.
Mega Developments now such as Atlantic City in ruins, and Vegas declining by the months and ultimately blinded to the pending water crisis that is forthcoming.
We've gone into "Fracking" as if its a Buzz works, when its premise is to 'Fracture the layers beneath the ground to suck out more gas than it currently needs or has the capacity to utilize. Result: earth quakes in places not know for the frequency of earthquakes, but paid mouthpieces, collecting fees to delude the people to think the two are not connected. Buried are the reports of contaminated soil, contaminated ground water and the many many trees that simply rot in large swatches near the areas where the toxic chemicals are injected into the holes created by fracking.
Still we listed to the suits talk, while they collect their fees, an people remain relatively unaware. Often times, the struggle to put a meal on the table, drives people to be without concerns or thoughts of the pending challenges. All by Design.
Our News media focused on sports players, like they salivate to create buzz, and ignore the father who killed his 5 and only a matter of weeks later another wipes out 6 family members, all the while the Whitehouse is breached, and the media ignores the factors of it all.
False sense of well being, seems to spread like a wild fire, and in the wake the devastation's are down played by the talking heads sitting before the camera's cracking jokes and pushing pun's as if they have center stage for the king and queens of buffoonery.
As with 2004-2008 - When Things Fall Apart - it's down played until it Crashes. And all the talking head rush to the microphone, to say, 'they did not see it coming".... Yet, these are the title riders, who claim big pay to sell big delusions, and step back and consider themselves blameless.
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Learning Truth that Exist
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Posted:Sep 23, 2014 5:12 am
Last Updated:Sep 27, 2014 4:16 pm 41523 Views
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Many citizens and certainly many Foreign nationals are often unaware of these things.
Extremism in America
Learn: So that you can guard against these extremist groups and their acts and actions.
The "sovereign citizen" movement is a loosely organized collection of groups and individuals who have adopted a right-wing anarchist ideology originating in the theories of a group called the Posse Comitatus in the 1970s. Its adherents believe that virtually all existing government in the United States is illegitimate and they seek to "restore" an idealized, minimalist government that never actually existed. To this end, sovereign citizens wage war against the government and other forms of authority using "paper terrorism" harassment and intimidation tactics, and occasionally resorting to violence.
Read and learn, visit the ADL ( Anti Defamation League) site, and you will learn even more about the madness of these groups.
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Alibaba (continued)
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Posted:Sep 21, 2014 6:17 am
Last Updated:Sep 25, 2014 4:55 pm 40645 Views
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TOKYO (Reuters) - Japan's SoftBank Corp said it expected a gain of about 500 billion yen ($4.6 billion) from Alibaba Group Holding's share listing in New York, where the Chinese e-commerce leader surged 38 percent on its first day of trade.
SoftBank CEO Masayoshi also told CNBC that he would want to own more of Alibaba, although he reiterated that the Japanese mobile carrier and Internet media company was happy with the current 32 percent stake, which made it the Chinese company's biggest shareholder.
Lots of money moving around behind the Stock Offering. the frenzy will continue and the price will escalate tremendously.. Speculators will drive it up so fast that one may wonder what is happening in the world of money and stock games.
Within the next 6 months, the Acquisition Frenzy will start, and it will continue to fuel the push for this stock.
Just like Google sucked up everything it came close to, so will this site with the money floating around like confetti. The gambling game in on!!!!
Watch the sharks come out for the feeding frenzy, We can expect this stock to surge to over $250.00 for sure.
Google is at $596, Facebooks is at 77. but it faced a split, which means it would be higher. Amazon is at $331.
For those who have the money to get in, they will win, over the next 12 months the winning will continue, but the cost to get in will continue to rise.
Now after 12 months. it may matter much about the promotion as well as what type of acquisitions they make.
China has the advantage to promote this website by various means within every country that China dominates in exporting its goods to.
It may take a while to filter out the sham artist who will rush to get listed on this site, but I'd suspect there will be a big bust to come after the 1-2 yrs mark, to weed out some of the corrupt criminal con artist who are inevitable to come to this site to cash in. But the difference may be the manner in which China dispenses it justice, which can be swift and brutal as a means to sending a strong message.
I'd think for the Investor with the money, its certainly a good ride over the next 12 months.
I'd love to have a few 100k to put into it. but at the moment, I don't; so that leaves me as a sideline watcher.
Even 100 share, or a 1000 share would be a good ride depending on if one is a working person, or a professional or small business person with some expendable cash they don't immediately need to utilize.
For sure the buzz.... will be a driving force. If one has given any attention to the Stock Market over the past years. It's all about the Buzz, because speculators ride on it, Fund Managers promote the buzz and Broker will pay dearly to keep the buzz alive until they can double or triple their money.
But then on the second tier comes the Alipay, may become its own spin off and go public.
Alibaba Group Holding Ltd. (BABA) is selling its small-business lending arm to the company that already controls payments affiliate Alipay, separating itself from the last of its major financial units ahead of an initial public offering expected next month.
The Chinese e-commerce giant will sell the loan business to Small and Micro Financial Services Co. for $518 million in cash and annual fees for seven years, it said in a U.S. regulatory filing yesterday.
Small and Micro Financial Services already owns Alipay, a PayPal-like service that is used by shoppers on Alibaba’s websites. The agreement also lifts a $6 billion cap, under certain conditions, on funds that Alibaba could receive if Alipay or its parent company go public, the filing shows.
The sale means the financial-services assets will be owned by Chinese nationals instead of the global investors that may buy shares in the IPO.
More than 78 percent of purchases made on Alibaba’s platforms last year were processed through Alipay, according to the prospectus. The lending unit provides financing for small-and medium-sized businesses that were selling products on Alibaba’s marketplaces. Other units within the Small and Micro Financial group include consumer finance, asset management, financial-products distribution and insurance.
Alibaba sold Alipay to Small and Micro Financial -- which is controlled by co-founder Jack Ma -- in 2011 amid concern that it wouldn’t be permitted to conduct business in China while it has foreign ownership, the IPO filing shows.
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The banking relationship already exist after this IPO, so it won't be difficult to take Alipay public, and increase it's dealing in financial business. The more the micro lending improves, the more money for both Alibaba and alipay... It's almost a given that these things will generate even more money....
Now that small business in the West will began to list themselves on Alibaba, this will change the dynamics, and many merchants will ride on both sites, Amazon and Alibaba... It's almost like a walled benefit gain for the big and small merchants to have accessibility to a larger pool of consumers.
For those doubter, save this post, when it happen, pull it out and read it and see if I am on target or off target.????
For some of the stock's I've followed, My picks have gained. one over 800% ( ATML ) and another over 1100% ( RFMD ) and another 300%. ( SIRI )
My short fall is limited investment capital, I don't get into the many other elements of stock business, because it take money to play with the various tools,. I'm simply talking about basic, Buy / Hold / Sell spectrum. The other tools are for the more knowledgeable investor groups who can afford and understand how to use the other tools within Stock Business Investing.
The Basic, I', speaking of is about getting in and picking your time to get out... I still believe in the principle of why the market was created in the first place. which is to support business stability and business growth over the long term.. Not the other stuff people like to do within the trading affairs.
The money machine of the moment
I watched the same game with Google when it first went public, they immediately began to expand their model to buy up all they could which was directly and indirectly related to their business. But they had good data, because they knew what people searched for, which gave them exceptional information on peoples interest.
Amazon uses the same strategy, as will Alibaba. They will know what people are interested in, by their search and ultimately by their purchasing habits.
they will become and probably have in-depth collaboration with 'data collectors and data sellers, like Google, Amazon, Facebook and Various other mass user based web programs.
You can be assured Facebook is already making direct and indirect agreements to get their buttons placed on Alibaba as well as how to make use of some of their acquisition and partners to pounce with group power to get a connecting ride on this platform.
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Posted:Sep 20, 2014 9:32 am
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It was about a Real Estate Broker who sells homes of the Ultra Wealthy.
It's astounding the things people pay and the reasons they pay for various things. As the woman said, some units can go up as much as 25% based on who has lived there.
I tried to wrap my mind around that, but it was very challenging for me to think of why I'd pay extra because someone live there before.
some of the places, looked like they'd be better used as Hotels, rather than as individual homes. I can't see any reason in my way of thinking as to why I'd need 11 bathrooms.
or very large acreage, just to say my house is surrounded by that. I'd be more interested in what productive usage could the land be better used for. Even it if its to build more units on, but in these areas, the rules won't allow that.
Even if I came to be the holder of a few $100 million dollars or billions, I just don't see where I'd spend it in those ways.,
I can see a variety of business ventures that I'd be interested in, including establishing a technical school for young people, Investing in developing better facilities for senior citizens, and building up some areas where things have a need.
I do see a good benefit in having a good helicopter. But maybe not a personal jet, because that can always be chartered or leased. I'm sure I'd not own a Yacht.
If someone is telling me that a so called "free Rolls Royce" comes with the home, I don't think I'd believe it as being free, by some means its wrapped in the cost.
What I do find interesting is people spend a lot of money to build these homes, and then they want to sell it.. I can see that if they built it with intent to sell as being in that line of business. But not as a claim of being a custom home for myself, and then sell it..I don't see the point.
They showed all these multimillion dollars apartments that many Chinese were buying for the as a dorm while they attend school. I wonder, are they going to school to learn something, or is it just to add another status based label to their self concept?
I guess the act of having massive money brings with it in some people some very different concepts about things. As there seems to be no shortage of ultra wealthy people globally, who follow this same type of programmed living and acquisitions mindset.
I guess when there is billions, the fact of things costing a few million or even a 100 million, its just something to do. 
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Posted:Sep 20, 2014 6:05 am
Last Updated:Sep 22, 2014 4:18 pm 40120 Views
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Alibaba Group Holding Ltd. surged in its U.S. trading debut, after the company raised a record-breaking $21.8 billion in an initial public offering.
The Chinese company's shares rose 38 percent to $93.89 in New York today, after the IPO was priced at $68. The e-commerce company, which started in 1999 with $60,000 cobbled together by founder Jack Ma, is now valued at $231.4 billion. That makes it larger than Amazon.com Inc. and EBay Inc. combined, and more valuable than all but 10 companies in the Standard & Poor's 500 Index.
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What comes next?
When money at this volume starts a cycle, it goes wild, what comes next may be an interesting things.
Where this company (Alibaba) results to station its sub-dominant headquarters will be an interesting development in the coming years.
I used in years ago, when I was looking for manufacturers of monogrammed logo's. I looked for it on a trading platform, due to the nature of its aims and provisions. But it took many years before it became something public, (This, Friday).
It's Amazing that Yahoo sold a % of its holding, in the initial offering, I find it interesting as Yahoo is specifically a web based company. It will need to elevate itself from being like a tabloid media, and become on that has better writing, by hiring people who understand the basics of what journalist Integrity is. Currently, it is about novelty articles, and then they play, s*ck em in, with crap articles, and then re-direct to a page, for the sake of selling advertising space on additional pages.
It probably is unlikely that it will change, because it has latched on to the advertising selling to such a degree, that it has no integrity, and will put advertising on video articles, which in no ways has a character place for such advertising before various types of articles.
It is obsessed with sports, and entertainment imagery, and it has become detestable in how it focuses on what costume an entertainer has on, and who has shown their butt and who is next to show their butt.
If it did not have syndicated news down the line it would have long ago died out as to News. Some of its programming still is designed as if it caters to the lusty eyes of youth.
It has insulted its own email program over and over with changes that make it far less than what it could have been. But that is likely not going to change, because they are kings when it comes to bombarding a email account with spam.
Well, I wonder if the association with Alibaba will have any impact to force an integrity upgrade to Yahoo?
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